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Interesting perspective, and there are market signs that support your view. When JP Magazine stopped printing in September of 2020 I felt the same way, I subscribed from 1996 until 2020. I suspected their readership decline was a major factor. Something else to consider about high prices is that...

After getting to know Mr. Joe's style and posts on his own JUOT, he was a good guy. I am convinced Storydude was a minor. Pirate and JU helped me be a great high school google content moderator. ll the trolls taught me so much about posting multiple screen names, doxxing, and other legacy tricks...

That place was hilarious, BirdoPrey VS Storydude, and all of them VS the Moderator's. JUOT does live on but I read recently that BirdoPrey has passed.

I have the 2023 with all the same options except adaptive cruise control.

Agreed,, I have read their junk before, companies from Apple, Tesla,, and others employ such trolls in their marketing, and information departments. Their job is to harvest data and report back to their bosses.

So glad to learn about the future of the Gladiator from someone that claims to know it all.

I agree somewhat, as I stated "Gladiator as is", so Mr. Wizard what is this Gladiator vision you have not based on the Wrangler? Don't worry about getting fired, if you are part of Stelantis, you already are as good as fired.

I love my Diesel Gladiator, and have advocated for something like it for 26 years, and I hope you are right. What I know is that the Gladiator isn't selling as is, so something will need tp change to increase sales numbers.

Profit is King in the Auto Industry and the Gladiator's sales numbers keep falling.

Isn't the Gladiator considered a "midsized truck" ? As the market stands today By keeping the Wrangler and deleting the Gladiator they would stay true to Jeep without competing between brands if Jeep and Ram stay under the same Company.

With the Dakota coming back, I am skeptical that they will keep the Gladiator unless it becomes something like the "Rampage". Maybe that's the new audience they are going for.

This brings back bad memories of when Chrysler bought Jeep, Comanche sales were very low, and they killed the Comanche in favor of the Dakota.

I bought my Jeep from Gilroy CDJR, and they even came to my home 95 miles away to give me a ride there to sign the papers and take delivery.

The signed contract is where you play hardball with the terms and conditions of the sale. If they do not refund, it would be in that contract. ASsfar as I know in California, there is no "Cooling off period", and most used car sales are "as is". For a used car, unless it is "certified...

I really miss the Lion's Back in Moab.

And Ghosn who was his mentor, and got caught embezzling at Nissan. Here is a pretty good summary of Stelantis.

I am very interested how much Stelantis "paid him" to leave, or any form of a "golden parachute" to hasten his exit. Bad behavior should never be rewarded.

I'll do one one better, I am enjoying my $80,000 Gladiator at a huge discount.

I am not the one asking people to post up sticker prices when I buy used. The issue is, why do you care?

Exactly the point of my post, so what do you have to contribute to this thread if you don't look at stickers and buy used?