Is my math correct?

[LordEnzo]

Payload is also part of ur tow weight, not separate. Get weighed if u even suspect being close, and make sure ur at or below gvwr. If u are at/close to max, try not to go faster than 65 mph. Otherwise ur brakes will be screaming. Ask me how I know...

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[ShadowsPapa]

Payload is also part of ur tow weight,

Payload is what can be on the truck's springs and axles.
Payload is not connected in any way to what you can tow.
If you can tow 6,000 pounds and your payload is 1,100 pounds, you can have a tongue weight of 600 pounds leaving you 500 pounds for yourself, your dog, your cooler with beer and your wife.
You can tow 6,000 pounds regardless of your payload.
Your payload is 1,100 pounds in my example regardless of the weight of the trailer behind you.
You can't say that the tow limit is 6,000 plus whatever the payload is, nor can you say that because you have 500 pounds of payload you can only tow 5,500 pounds of trailer.

Now if you mean gross combined weight rating, that's another animal.
That's GCWR and is the maximum allowable weight of both the loaded tow vehicle and the loaded trailer that the tow vehicle can handle safely.

Lest anyone tend not to believe me because I'm an ordinary person on the web tossing stuff out, here's the official explanation to back that up -

What Is Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)?
Gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), in the simplest of terms, is the maximum amount a vehicle can weigh as it rolls down the road. This number includes the curb weight of the vehicle, all occupants, and all cargo.

What Is Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR)?
Gross combined vehicle weight rating (GCWR), however, is the maximum weight of a vehicle and its attached trailer. This figure is also inclusive of all passengers and cargo in both the tow vehicle and the trailer. This is also sometimes referred to as gross combined vehicle weight rating (GCVWR).

So if "tow weight" is what is meant, it's all inclusive.
But few here ever talk of that - they want to know "how much can I tow" or "what's my payload - how much can I haul" or - if I tow a trailer that weighs 5,000 pounds how much can I put in the truck.
Few think about GCWR.

 

[LordEnzo]

Payload is what can be on the truck's springs and axles.
Payload is not connected in any way to what you can tow.
If you can tow 6,000 pounds and your payload is 1,100 pounds, you can have a tongue weight of 600 pounds leaving you 500 pounds for yourself, your dog, your cooler with beer and your wife.
You can tow 6,000 pounds regardless of your payload.
Your payload is 1,100 pounds in my example regardless of the weight of the trailer behind you.
You can't say that the tow limit is 6,000 plus whatever the payload is, nor can you say that because you have 500 pounds of payload you can only tow 5,500 pounds of trailer.

Now if you mean gross combined weight rating, that's another animal.
That's GCWR and is the maximum allowable weight of both the loaded tow vehicle and the loaded trailer that the tow vehicle can handle safely.

Lest anyone tend not to believe me because I'm an ordinary person on the web tossing stuff out, here's the official explanation to back that up -

What Is Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)?
Gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), in the simplest of terms, is the maximum amount a vehicle can weigh as it rolls down the road. This number includes the curb weight of the vehicle, all occupants, and all cargo.

What Is Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR)?
Gross combined vehicle weight rating (GCWR), however, is the maximum weight of a vehicle and its attached trailer. This figure is also inclusive of all passengers and cargo in both the tow vehicle and the trailer. This is also sometimes referred to as gross combined vehicle weight rating (GCVWR).

So if "tow weight" is what is meant, it's all inclusive.
But few here ever talk of that - they want to know "how much can I tow" or "what's my payload - how much can I haul" or - if I tow a trailer that weighs 5,000 pounds how much can I put in the truck.
Few think about GCWR.

I stand corrected on gvwr vs gcwr, as gcwr is what I was originally referring too. But the tow weight being inclusive of the payload I explained is how it was explained to me as well as what I have researched in the past. Ur explanation is a little confusing, but I think I get it. This is also no disrespect to u, as I kno u have provided much valuable info on this forum and I have agreed with almost all of it. I will do my due diligence tho and further research this for better clarity, at least for myslef. Thank you sir.

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