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No surprises here, why wait this long to put this out. No Earl, so fail in my book anyway.

I don't think affordable is the right word. Based on info we have, which is not apples-to-apples, I would expect the 3.0tt to be about a $5,000 premium over the 3.6 (not counting all there other lux items which will probably come with it that everyone seems to be screaming for like ventilated...

Not if you don't want to wake your family in hysteria in the middle of a night to a massive house fire!! :CWL:

We do forget that most car buyers are buying appliances. By being a member on a car forum probably makes one at least somewhat an enthusiast. So then what we really need to be talking about, is how many of these future EV buyers are going to be going 55 or less in the left lane to preserve...

I wonder if we achieved peak hay back then.

Ya, but in the winter, on a trip they both suck. And beyond that for track or back roads driving, they are heavy as hell, only somewhat saved by their low center of gravity. Make for a good muscle car going stop light to stop light (a few times anyway) I guess, but comparing them to a true...

Yes the days of the v8 are likely over - outside of low production, high margin, specialty offerings, unfortunately. But I think all the electric talk is largely vaporware in the short term for the good 'ol U S of A. The EU market is different - they could force everyone to just take an already...

Odd that they have the Freedom Trim up on the possible launch page when it is not even up for the Wrangler.

Truly there are some conflicting sources and room for interpretation with the spokesman's statement. Maybe both are right, if the platform changes and/or the next gen equivalent replacements are called something different (with the BEVs retaining the charger name) then the source might not be...

Sure, link below to the banned site we all know (type it in in the link below, but article is currently on the front page as well). I don't always believe them, but they have been right lately - and the only media sites claiming all ICE versions of Charger and Challenger are done 2024 are posts...

Wrong. There will be ICE versions of the Charger and Challenger alongside electric versions. Check your sources. And Jeep has 'said' a lot of things. Wouldn't count your chickens until they come home to roost.

Unfortunately ship has likely sailed on a v8 in the Gladiator. If we were going to see the 5.7 it would have already happened (and likely been done with the JL too to offset engineering costs). Everyone seems to believe that it is a forgone conclusion that the 3.0TT is making its way to the JL...

Where the hell is the order guide or actual press release for the 2023 model year. Very odd that Jeep started advertising available trims and features for the 2023 Gladiator, yet no formal information on what the options are etc. a month and half later.

I am disagreeing with you that 37s can fit for very little money - now I guess what constitutes 'very little money' is subjective... but looking at your signature line, I would guess our definitions would be different. Also, I guess you could just put on 37s on with spacers, but that seems...

The Wagoneers are an extremely puzzling product niche and value proposition... I honestly would love to know why someone would chose one of these over a Yukon or Escalade. They get expensive really quick and offer less content than even a similarly spec'd Tahoe for the money. Also, why do...

Don't think you can option the FULL TIME system with the diesel for whatever reason. Not with the 4:1 system on the Rubicon nor the 2.73:1 standard system.

It is a bit puzzling. Why not offer them up for the Gladiator. It does not appear that Jeep had to re-certify the wrangler with the XR package or just 4.88 upgrade. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think they give the XRs different window sticker designations for EPA mileage etc. With the price...

Clearly you have not bothered to look at the specs for the 2023 Colorado or Canyon. No, the doors and roof don't come off and it likely cannot run 37s (but a very minuscule number of Gladiator even run 37s and you can only even drop that after dropping substantial sums on aftermarket parts -...

What else are internet forums for then? :CWL: In all seriousness though, for sure, to each is own. Well except for angry grills... Those people should be beaten with a rubber hose. I still think it is perplexing making this wild and polarizing color a year long 'core' color rather than a...