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  1. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Ok. The most insulting of these messages are direct evidence that I'm right in my assertion that YOUR PERCEPTION OF ME IS WRONG. Anything I've said about my situation has only been to CORRECT THAT INCORRECT PERCEPTION. Now the most important one, I put as 2nd quote, because most importantly I...
  2. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I dunno it's nothing personal. When people get offended because people don't wanna throw their time in the garbage for some reason it's like they totally forget about the value of time. I can count 5 times that I've said that KBB was wrong that I only asked if it was right. I didn't ask for nor...
  3. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    One thing I will say. I love how it seems every thread gets so much conversation and sub-threads pop off and it's You have to cover the difference.
  4. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I love how I'm being lectured to on financial stuff but then I'm getting advice to trade it in instead of selling it privately. Trading in is a convenience. Lately my mind has shifted.. and I'm not going to do things that set money on fire. I will get way more if I sell it privately. Then...
  5. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I think we have two radically different pictures of how I'm handling my life and how I'm living. I don't want that much. I'm sure what you're thinking of in terms of your dream cars I honestly don't even care. So much so that I did an exercise a while back. "If you could have anything you...
  6. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I'm not really one to use this phrase, like ever, but it's very applicable here: Must be nice to have excellent credit to be able to get such a low interest rate. Also with Jeep it was absolutely impossible to get exactly what I wanted because they don't offer it. That's why I build probably...
  7. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Yeah opportunity costs is what you're paying in missed opportunities, missed income, missed gains, from taking any given action. In this case by purchasing the car cash you're missing the opportunity to put that money into the an investment etc. This gets into finance vs. lease.. Some people...
  8. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    It's interesting you should say this, because this was my experience as well. Now I will say I got the Rubicon because there was something that I could only get with the Rubicon.. I can't remember what it was. I was looking at the Overland before but there was something I couldn't add as an...
  9. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    This sounds about right coz a while back I was offered $40,000 trade in for mine at a Ford dealership, and $35k at Jeep dealership.. Interesting coz someone here said that they pay more at Jeep dealers. Many people here have said KBB shouldn't be taken seriously/trusted. But wow.. that's very...
  10. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Because I'm not rich and in this economy I can't afford to have a vehicle that gets 12/13mpg. And this is stock. If I drive on a highway for 4 hours it will get to 17-18, but generally it's 12/13. The comment about not being rich is because I can't afford to have more than vehicle. If I didn't...
  11. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Please stop assuming stuff. REALLY. It's clear you didn't read anything coz I wrote about my 6 years of multi-faceted research on the entire used market of 3 different manufacturers and 3 different gens, six+ different year models of both Wranglers and Gladiators to see how the prices stack up...
  12. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I have another vehicle so I have no problem just selling it if I have to. I'm actually not too far away from what I see other people selling theirs for.
  13. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I owed $50,000 on it and the dealership couldn't get any banks to loan me the money.. I was basically gonna trade it in for a $30,000 vehicle, and they said they don't like to loan more than the vehicle is worth..
  14. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Perhaps. There's this guy Robmotive that lives near there and these other guys from JK Gear and Gadgets used to live down there and it's gorgeous.
  15. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Yeah I did put my zip code in. Yeah it's like 2+ hours to do anything.. I really want to go camping in the beach in South Texas but it's like an 8 hour drive.. Besides gas costs I can't really take really long trips now because of work. My work while it's WFH they're super anal about me...
  16. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    In order.. I will check that out and see how it turns out.. The BS part is that KBB says my 2022 Gladiator with 11,000 miles is worth $22k-$30k.. When I say BS I mean it's wrong. Because what I've seen for sale on Carfax.com and in FB Marketplace doesn't add up.. There's a lot of JTR for $47k...
  17. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    It's actually the last 6 years.. and I looked at all manner of years. 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018 .. Wranglers... I was just trying to see the resale value. And then I didn't just look at Jeep. I looked at Toyota trucks, Ford trucks, Dodge Rams. I say idiot... others maybe would say ignorant, naive...
  18. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Read my last reply dude. I'm not an idiot. This is not depreciation, this is the equivelant of a stock market crash. I mean we're talking about A WEBSITE ..... just to be clear. A WEBSITE. saying that the top of the line Jeep vehicle is worth less than the base model now. and like I said in...
  19. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Because there's a difference between like it being 80% of the retail price a year later with very low mileage... and it being like 1/4th what you paid for it, a year later with very low mileage. This is not a thread about "omg it's a bad financial decision" This is a thread asking if that's...
  20. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I swear you can't listen to dealers even if they're family.. My cousin works at a Jeep dealership and when I asked him he said "Yeah they depreciated, it's not like a house.." I'm like not by that much!!!




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