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  1. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Go ahead and delete my account because I really at this point can't stand Jeeps anymore and you guys are a bunch of argumentative insecure pricks.
  2. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    And ShadowsPapa my friend. Please stop arguing with me and criticizing me about everything. The Mojave comment was peak retard. You probably didn't expect me to have driven one. I'm at the point where I'm no longer amused with you low-IQ retard morons.
  3. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I've driven a Mojave. It's not cushy. It's firm. But even cushy would be better than the Rubicon's Bounce house effect that happens whenever you hit a bump. It's like you're suspended with bungee cables on all sides and someone pulled you in one direction and let you go, except you stop...
  4. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Both. I don't like the Rubicon suspension. I originally wanted a Mojave but everyone said "Get the Rubicon, you can buy the Mojave shocks".. Well once I lost my really high income job I couldn't afford any mods.. Also gas mileage is terrible. I went to WV and Maryland a few years ago for...
  5. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Agreed. But hey I just said I needed someone to wash my car. I didn't use the word detail, I just said how I wanted it washed because the last time I asked on there they sent me to one of those automatic car washes. I just said detailed now because that's what he calls the service. Great job btw.
  6. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    The only thing about this that I don't like is that I don't want to have an extra $1200 because then I won't be struggling. I WANT to struggle. I got into this by being too complacent. Too comfortable.
  7. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I find your take on this interesting. I am going to consider this. I always take pride in everything that I sell looking immaculate. I know that most of the time people don't give a shit.. but I honestly do think with vehicles it will make a difference if the vehicle is clean and pristine vs...
  8. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Let's just call it a day on this shall we? It's been a long day let's just put all this to rest.
  9. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    To be completely honest this situation is not a problem for me. The mental anguish comes from what I said. These dudes clearly desperately trying to pull the wool over my eyes with the $70,000 car, and then saying everything I ask about is impossible to get, and it being impossible to get an...
  10. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Yeah, I know how it works. If what I was talking about specifically goes by the credit bureaus, then there's broken logic here. I just posted some well demonstrated facts by people who have high net worths.. Ie. They're rich and wealthy.. Have businesses worth millions.. and then I have middle...
  11. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I am convinced that people on forums just give advice without even reading or understanding what the person writing it is asking for. Just an observation I've had the past week.
  12. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Sorry to hear about your cat. I hope ShadowsKitty is ok. By carrying a balance I don't mean you never use the card. I just mean you pay it off completely by the end of the statement. There are many people specializing in debt repair and personal finance who will say to never never carry a...
  13. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    That's great for you but I was talking about me. :) You don't need debt. If you have a good spread of credit cards and you never carry a balance you have good credit. Debt can be used to benefit you, if you finance things that will pay you money (investment properties etc.)
  14. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    That's good but you're still in debt and still have car payments. I mean no offense I'm just sayin (And I really mean it I'm not just sayin it). I don't want any of those things. I need one vehicle at least, a reliable one that fits my life. So financing on that one is a necessary evil since I...
  15. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Yes, this is why I vowed to myself that I would never finance a vehicle again after first noticing this. This thread is very long and so posts get lost. I did 6 years of research on the used market for all kinds of Jeeps. but then circumstances changed. The last time I got an appraisal before...
  16. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    I just got offered $40,000 for a trade in today. That KBB value I got was complete bunk. Interesting that on yours it shows $37-$42k. My best bet is to sell it to a private party. The negative equity is still an issue. Dude at the dealership was like "Oh yeah. If you're able to sell it and...
  17. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Yeah the Diesel was a consideration and I actually tried to trade mine in for a Diesel but they wouldn't do the loan because it was too soon after I got the loan for the one I have. I was afraid to get the Diesel because I've heard about the problems with the DEF system and that people had...
  18. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Going back and sorting through all the replies I see that there's an almost exponential difference in the people telling me that KBB is BS vs. people disparaging me. Sorry I missed this. Thank you for your response. I'm actually not unemployed. I have a job. I got laid off of a really ...
  19. Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

    Bravo 👏👏👏 The classic "If you weren't _____ you wouldn't [opinion here]" when the person posted FACTS. And then of course ignoring said facts. The one thing you people have going for you is the delusion that you're the winner in these kinds of arguments. You literally cannot see that you're...




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