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  1. Order or buy left over '20?

    Get what you really want. If you can find a 2020 just so, buy it. Otherwise , order. That's what I did.
  2. Driving in sand tutorial (Outer Banks, NC)?

    Lucky SOB :) We go there once every 7 years. It's where we honeymooned (Ocracoke, 1977), but last time (2019) was anniversary No. 42, and so, not getting any younger, we have decided to cut the interval to 4 years. Last three times, driving a 2004 Dakota quad cab 4x4. Next time, Jeep Gladiator...
  3. Driving in sand tutorial (Outer Banks, NC)?

    Good advice. Backing up means you stop on sand your wheels have already compacted to a degree. Depends on the beach. Daytona is hard-packed like pavement. Ocracoke can be extremely soft; I guarantee you won't make it in 2WD. Not even AWD will work on a typical SUV; not enough ground clearance...
  4. Driving in sand tutorial (Outer Banks, NC)?

    It should go without saying, you need to have a shovel, air compressor, and traction boards with you. Actually those things are required by the Park Service. Water, emergency food, etc.
  5. Driving in sand tutorial (Outer Banks, NC)?

    Never been to Cape Lookout (it's on my list!), but been on Ocracoke beach many times with my 4x4 Dakota. The sand varies a lot depending on how close you are to waters edge. Nearer the water it tends to be firmer; nearer the dunes tends to be looser. Compared to some other beaches I have been...
  6. Why is Overland the only model to have 18's?

    Good points. Not tuned to out West conditions.
  7. About to buy a 2021 base Sport instead of Sport S here's my thoughts why

    Well, I can't comment about part numbers, but it certainly makes no logical sense why Jeep would do a recall for defective parts, have a moratorium on manual Jeeps, then start making Jeeps all over again with the exact same parts. Plus the fact that the Jeep rep stated that the issue did not...
  8. About to buy a 2021 base Sport instead of Sport S here's my thoughts why

    I am fairly sure they did address it. At least that was stated by the Jeep representative on this forum back in the Spring, after the recall. That the JTs being assembled did not have the problem pressure plate.
  9. Why is Overland the only model to have 18's?

    True, especially the rear if you got LSD, you would be adding some small amount of additional wear . . . But, after all the spare is only meant to be on the road a short time before you get the main tire fixed.
  10. Why is Overland the only model to have 18's?

    My dream trip (or one of them!) is to drive up through Canada and return by ferry to Bellingham, WA.
  11. Made a bonehead move...worse than cheating on my wife...

    I find the manual Overland has plenty of get up and go when I need it. Trick is to understand the V6 delivers it max power at the high end of the RPM range, and shift accordingly. Wind it out in 1st and 2nd and it really scoots.
  12. Why is Overland the only model to have 18's?

    Knowing a little about you (from so many posts), I assume you run your hit-miss engines. I once wanted one, but now content to watch (listen!) other people's run.
  13. 24+ mpg after 6 weeks on the road

    I have been consistently getting an average of 25 mpg on I-75 and I-95. Probably 75% flat and 25% moderate hills or overpasses. 70 mph. Stock Overland with manual transmission. I think that correlates well with your results, since you have AT.
  14. Woops that was deep.

    Never had a winch. But it always seemed to me a rear winch would enable one to back out of the trouble one got into. Unless, of course you ascribe to the Rubicon attitude. And I don't mean the trail in California.
  15. Made a bonehead move...worse than cheating on my wife...

    This is a good thread, lots of neat things said, BUT - No, it was not worse than cheating on your wife. Just sayin'.
  16. Made a bonehead move...worse than cheating on my wife...

    I really like it. It seems most of those who say "6th is useless" either have up-sized tires or constantly drive in hills. To me the gears offer a perfect balance. 1st through 4th for most driving and two overdrives for fuel economy and less engine wear on the freeway. I towed near max for my...
  17. North Carolina F/S Premium Soft Top

    I think he meant trade for a Sunrider for Hardtop.
  18. How popular are Gladiators where you are?

    SW Florida ditto. It seems about the time I got mine, late July, suddenly I started seeing a lot more. It is due to new production after Covid shutdown ended. Even on Marco Island I see a different one every week, it seems.
  19. Admit it. Now that you own a JT, JKU's aren't necessary!

    Completely relaxed. I just wanted to know what you meant. How would anyone know unless they knew what you rented?




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