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This is, I don't know, maybe wrong? Cars selling well means we pay literal thousands more in financing and/or lack of incentives. I'm currently sitting on cars with little fun appeal exactly because of this. Prepared to wait to fall.

The headlines are bigger tires, better shocks, better springs with remote reservoirs, nicer interior and a few flares here and there on the body + red nostrils. Again though, it's a few thousand dollar package not a new trim level or model. It's just humorous to me that changes that have big...

I mean, I've driven these things so it's not like I'm walking into this blind on paper. I also find it highly ironic that any Jeep buyer would reduce that kind of upgraded suspension and an extra inch of ground clearance for only a few thousand as "just a couple of bolt ons" Honestly a big part...

I love some of you people. The rage is just off the charts. I put off buying for myself a year, it's not a grand conspiracy. Frankly the lease on the car I'm replacing isn't even up until September so it may be another little bit till I buy one, still! Hope you're not allowed to own any weapons...

It's cool to know they're selling elsewhere. I see them on Long Island everywhere, but Long Island has always had a very high percentage of Jeeps on the road so I didn't know if it was just here.

Thanks for this. Knew I'd get a gem or two opinion amongst the fan-boyism I so readily invited, there's a few good posts but this is the best since you've owned both. Funny, the Mk V GTI I keep bringing up was one of the first modern gasoline direct injected cars that wasn't a super car. I...

It's that plus some other things. Sales are legit off the charts. If you just got your Biden bucks, a down payment on a new truck becomes a thing you can do that you weren't planning (and thus neither was Ford)

That's a little oversimplified, first I'd take the Ford power plant over the non-diesel Gladiator any day of the week because it's actually a modern engine platform with tons of HP and torque for its displacement and gas mileage. The "2012" rip only half holds up as when it came to the states it...

All trucks are off the charts right now, it's not just the Gladiator. Ford dealership two days ago said I'd have to wait till end of summer if I wanted an F150 and they didn't have a single one. If you go to Ford's site right now, they have 0 incentives on any trunks, and I mean 0. No cash back...

Ok for the record the Ridgeline is "this is what responsible people would do" not what I'm personally, going to do :D The Ranger Tremor would definitely not be at the edge of its capabilities at all times (and frankly, sigh, neither would the Ridgeline...) I guess what I'm saying is, for...

Because part of what makes the Gladiator worth looking at in general for me is what it affords over other trucks in its class in off-road capabilities. Otherwise, sorry it's just Ram's mid-size truck under a Jeep label (which is still cool!) :D When you get down to it, it's all overbuying. I'm...

Ok, I know this is dumb but the aux switches are way cooler on the Ranger. You can toggle them up and down! UP AND DOWN MAN! Edit: Objectively cooler Tremor aux switches below. They're like the main feature of the damn dashboard! "Well, we were going to add two more airbags and make it safer...

Um, the Tremor is a marked improvement on stock offerings on the Ford Ranger that has been getting respect from pretty much everyone. The name of this board is titled "Gladiator vs." If it's not vs. one of the most capable off-roaders in its class that's new for model year '21, then wtf is it...

Lulz, for sure. This is not the stuff I'm scared to let my kids do. I'm scared for when my son wants to put petal to the metal on the compacted dirt roads I frequent. There's a reason I didn't say Mojave! If I was 21 the answer would be Mojave and there'd be no thread, just a Mojave in my...

Look man, no one "needs" a Rubicon. I cruise 20,000 acres of compacted back dirt roads on a regular basis. I don't need to prove shit to anyone and I can tell you for certain that the Ridgeline can handle every single one of those roads, with ease except for a select few, which I also wouldn't...

I'm not saying anything other than it's logical if someone wants to consider it as a factor.

I've been in both, haven't driven a Tremor but I have driven a 2021 4x4 Ranger Lariat at the dealer (can't remember what sticker Ford had on the tail). Frankly I thought the handling "problems" people speak about of the Ranger to be way overstated and I expect them to get better with the Tremor...

That's not the convincing argument I was looking for. The lifestyle advantages to owning a Jeep are the obvious reasons to consider it at a potentially inferior value. I dunno man, I'm getting old and if I'm honest I haven't been truly offroad since I had kids (oldest is 13 now). Frankly I'm...

Ever try a VW diesel? I always thought if I traveled like you travel that'd be the ideal long hauler 200k miles in 4 years type setup.

I'm a Jeep fan, I like electric cars and I've been recently looking for my wife. My advice on all the extraneous stuff on this thread is to ignore it. The world doesn't get saved by your personal car decision, it gets saved when cars as a whole change. This is your, personal, calculation and...