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i test drove a jk with the 2.8 turbo diesel 4 cyl it had a switch on the dash to turn it off thankfully i think this ess has to be 1 of the automotive industries worst crap ideas to bull sh*t there way past emissions laws as an engine can idle for quite while on the same amount of fuel required...

im guessing the scrambler badge has been confirmed now we have this new site

ah thanks didnt think to look there not used to tech just a lowly earthmover

i cant wait to see what we are actually going to be able to buy i was going to buy a jk8 till i heard the rumor of this coming out & have been waiting & ill keep waiting but seeing that gives me hope it seems to be taking forever

cool what is known about those 2 frame designs is 1 the 2 door & the other the 4 door or is it a jl frame & a jt frame

im sure they will get used & abused so i think if they use steel it would be more practical im hoping to buy 1 when they finally reach our shores & if the bed isnt up to the job ill have to put a trayback on it instead cheers ian