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Battlestar Galactica? But, seriously, these might help: https://jalopnik.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-upcoming-48-volt-1790364465 https://autoweek.com/article/technology/2019-ram-etorque-system-torque-down-low

Not to take anything away from Tread Lightly, as they are a terrific advocate for responsible preservation of off road land, but there are literally hundreds of other options that provide Affiliate Rewards that many, many people already qualify for through their employers/unions/memberships/etc...

Easy. Criswell in Gaithersburg (contact Julius@[email protected]) or Marco at Ourisman in Clarksville ([email protected]). Don't expect too much at least until the JT actually drops, but they have the best deals East of the Rockies on the JL.

From Jersey, you'll be better off going to the Maryland/DC dealers for a great deal. Take a train/bus, they'll pick you up and they do 8% below invoice on ordered JLs (and have always done 5%). The best Maryland dealers are 3 hours from Edison. They'll all post on here eventually. F MSRP, and F...

Capitalism.

But then you'd be driving a Ram Dually with a Cummins diesel...I can also buy a Corvette Stingray Convertible or an Audi A7 or 6 well-equipped 2014 Subaru Foresters or 65 Tommaso Monzas.

I saw this thread and thought, "Here's an opportunity for everyone to just post best guess and not have to deal with all of the BS from the other threads", but, naw, just another "How dare you!" and "Where do you get off?" session. Everyone just post your best guess, and in a month or so we can...

Base JTS, no options: $36,595 JTSport S: $39,995 Base JTO: $43,595 Base JTR: $$46,995 JTR Loaded w/diesel: $65,395 Final answer. Sorry.

So, right around the same time that the US gets pricing information...

Oh, Abe...

And the vehicle was a dang pick-up truck that was affordable, even though it was made of solid gold rainbows and plutonium. All cars were in those days. No SRS, ABS, ACC, ESS, EBS, FCW, heck, there wasn't even FOX. Just CBS, ABC and NBC, and fer all the eggheads, PBS. Ahhhh the Good Ol' Days...

Take yer book learnin' and point yer skinny nerd fingers somewhere else! We just want to bitch and moan about the good ol' days when times were simpler and you could go see the latest Jean Harlowe moving pitcher fer a nickel! Nothing is ever better now and the Gobmint is always trying to screw...

I thought you were way off base, until I read "plywood"...

Have you ever just looked at the plies? I mean really looked? It's like, whoa, like really, whoa...it's just working on so many layers, so many levels.

No, see, that's what you're missing: plywood is beautifulness, and beautifulness is plywood. Until you accept that, you will never reach a higher plane of enlightenment.

I was gonna let it play, but people get pissed around here...

You guys get that this is a tongue-in-cheek jab at all of the fan-boys willing to pay anything and the price hype, right? He's just trying to get a reaction (and succeeding).

And if it was a rockin'...no, no. No one got busy in an '86 Caravan. Not without catching something.

You could get curb stomped for even making that comparison around some parts. The GW had a 360 and a kick-ass 4X4 system, and did I mention a Burgundy leather and velour interior? Velour! All the way through into the cargo area (where it isn't shag carpet). I did see a great resto show a while...

I guess everyone's idea of VG is different, but this one had no rust, solid floors, VG interior, all mechanicals worked as they should, matching rims, etc. Probably $8-10k away from being stellar. It was on the North Shore of LI. Lasted on Craigslist about a week.:( This one's pretty decent...