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That is absolutely true. I've seen it myself in all aspects of life. That is isn't the case for me. Innovation and advancements in technology are exciting. Battery technology is exciting. What percentage of people do you think shun EV's because they just don't like change and what percentage...

What was the point then? Iam pretty sure I knew what you meant.

I don't think the government was subsidizing computer controlled vehicles, nor had it squandered billions of tax dollars earmarked for fuelling stations for said cars. I also don't remember the technology being a result of regulation but I could be wrong. We DID however lose the import of the...

Make it a cubby for cute little toy ducks for show or to pass out to other grown men.

I didn't make a political statement. Iam looking at.your problem through a larger lens.

A small willys style jeep like the first models would be cool like the barebones roxors but all electric with 50-100 miles range. I'd drive the piss out of that to work and back.

I have a cousin who is good friends with a dude who's barber cuts hair for one the the lead engineers sons at stellantis. He said he heard that stellantis was bringing back the hemi and they were going to put it in the Gladiator to be a generator for a 2 motor ev gladiator. So you can plug it in...

The new 4 runner looks like ass but it's not like toyota has a great track record when it comes to styling.

The 392 is so 2020. Nowadays turbo 4 cylinders are all the rage. Everyone wants one of those. Just find a 2 or 4 door salvaged wrangler with a turbo 4 and do the swap.

Put it on your angry grill or your cold air intake box.

Another good pandemic could help with that and our impending social security funding issues. "The ends justify the means". Some institutions think like that.

How did the dash and instrument layout feel? The grenadier is pretty different with how the dash is laid out going from memory. Seemed pretty cool to me. The only thing I didn't care for was that out of place shifter knob.

Is this your first jeep OP?

A hemi gladiator would definitely make me trade my 3.6 in. The 4xe will be popular too. I know there are at least a dozen members here that are interested in a 4xe gladiator.

Love the color and those wheels. I hope they sell a bunch and start making 2 door models.

Well I came in here fully prepared to make fun of your new purchase but the grenadier looks like an awesome truck and I say "congratulations!". Iam glad someone across the pond is carrying out the Defender legacy ?

Yes there are some against EV because it's a new thing, like the yj guys bitched about the new tj, who didn't like the new jk, who didn't like the new jl. I think the possibilities with EV are cool and exciting but like I said, the kind of people and organizations we give immense power to, to...

It's really not that bizarre that people don't want to participate in funding others people's electric vehicles and have their ice options limited by government mandates, concocted by people that probably couldn't change their own oil. There's evidence all around us that the institutions that...

No but I've always thought they were cool. I just can't stomach the extra maintenance and costs as well as the emissions related handcuffs on these motors.