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  1. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    My whole reason for replying is that the facts/reasons are good enough for the EcoDiesel to be a Perfect fit for the JT, that there's no need for misleading/false information either as post or as linked to content. I've often said the 3.0L is the only absolutely REQUIRED engine option for the...
  2. Colorado ZR2 Will Be The JT Rubicon's Main Competition

    Remember that increase in unsprung weight, and specifically rotating drivetrain weight has a greater impact on performance & efficiency, so tyres and lift are worse than increases to bed, etc.
  3. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    JKU Rubicon GVWR is already 5700lbs for the Pentastar, so 6,000lbs+ is pretty much guaranteed in a JT EcoDiesel.
  4. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    Biggest problem for JL range may be the retention of a smaller gas tank than the JLU (75L vs 85L) And while 7.xL/100KM Hwy might be a stretch, low 8.xL/100KM is very possible considering the export CRD diesel gets 8.7/8.8L per 100KM (6MT/5AT), the OD is definitely better in the 8ZF than in the...
  5. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    That aren't large enough to exist in Canada, WalMart and Costco do, Shell does... but even your local pricing does not change the statements in the article or the data it ignores. Again you pretending that the numbers aren't off to serve your own purpose shows you're using alternate facts to try...
  6. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    And Wlmart is for everyone and there are two of them within a mile at that 2.73 price vs diesel's 2.79, and like Costco they probably acount for more gasoline sales than the next 5 stations combined, so still more relevant than a small local station that doesn't sell half as much. Glad to...
  7. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    Again, when an author or poster says "National Average" it's something that is easy to check, and posting your local station doesn't negate that statement. Even in your example Vegas, the lowesr price for Regular is 2.77 and the lowest price for diesel is 2.79. I can get agricultural gasoline...
  8. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    Also checking the EPA numbers, those are for the the 6-speed 4x4 Hemi numbers (15MPG combined)... not the 8-speed Hemi 4x4 numbers (17MPG combined) versus the Ecodiesel 8-speed 4x4, so again not quite equal setups. A little sketchy that both the MPG and Fuel Price numbers are off in ways that...
  9. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    OK, just making sure people had the facts, as whomever wrote the article(s) made those glaring mistakes, especially using a term like "national average", and if people make their purchasing choices based on that, and later found out their experience didn't match the article, then that would be...
  10. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    US National Average fuel prices for those dates. Diesel is on the Left, Regular Gasoline is on the Right. Current US prices which clearly show how 'not-average' Texas prices are, are in the link above. Seems pretty clear that that article is definitely not what the 'average' user will...
  11. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    Your link goes to "page not found" Well then as someone in an oil-rich region, like myself, even if you're not directly involved in production, you should know that Texas prices don't reflect the "national average" stated in the information you posted, and is a distortion of the facts, either...
  12. Anyone Concerned About Costs???

    Your whole thread says that, you're even petitioning for them in a forum. So if you aren't willing to wait for them, then you don't care that much about price despite your statements to the contrary. Not grasping as hard as you are. You use non-comparable discounts and vehicles in your...
  13. Anyone Concerned About Costs???

    Initially you'll get the Judge Smails special.. "You'll get Nothing and Like it !" .. as they will likely have trouble keeping them on the lot for the first many months because the pent-up demand is so great that there's even websites poping up dedicated to it, over a year before they're even...
  14. Confirmed: 2020 Jeep Gladiator (JT) gets 3.0L diesel, hard/soft tops, longer frame, beefier axles

    Where's the reference to that write-up? The links to edmunds don't have those prices/costs in them. The fuel prices don't reflect the national average at all despite the recent uptick that hit regular harder than diesel after Harvey, diesel is still almost 10% more expensive and has been...
  15. Anyone Concerned About Costs???

    So the 1500, will be refreshed before the Jt arrives and the 2500 will only get part of that, and by the time you wait for the discounts on the JT, the 2500 will have already had its refresh... so again your model is broken. No you didn't, you compared a Raptor, not something like a Brute...
  16. Anyone Concerned About Costs???

    Posties can already order discounted RHD Wranglers to the tune of about 3,000 units a year in the US. It's possible / probable, but only after initial demand is met (you don't push margin aside for base models) , it's also a tougher situation since a RHD model let alone export model isn't...
  17. Anyone Concerned About Costs???

    ..both are getting an update next year, same time as JT launch, so non-issue. And convertible, and diesel... or perhaps the Wrangler is 'just another SUV' by that srgument and should be priced like an Escape or Equinox or Kia Sportage. Which makes no sense. MSRP vs MSRP is the only true...
  18. Anyone Concerned About Costs???

    It's never meant to compete with bare bones anything so it was always gonna be priced at a premium. Compare it to a Raptor and TRD Pro and then you see that same price tage and higher. If it was going to be a $30-40K pricetage, then it wouldn't have been worth doing because it costs way more to...
  19. Will there be JT Scrambler Sport/Sahara/Rubicon? JT Trailhawk?

    No, they couldn't equate the two, because everything they are doing to the JT makes it less of an off-roader vs the Wrangler, not more, so they would not get any leeway by comparing it to a JLU. Also, since they ran a Renegade through there to prove the Trailhawk they's have to do at least that...
  20. Tow capacity for Jeep Wrangler Pickup Truck (JT)?

    Likely not due to mounting point, the export Australian Wrangler has the same mounting spot, and it's rated for 5,000 lbs, and the Euro one is rated for 4,840. Both have bigger brakes and the diesel, but even the Pentastar is rated for 4,400 lbs.




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