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Yes and that gives them the higher tow and payload ratings

Did you sit in the back of the Frontier? If so, how did it compare to the JT?

Maybe standard above sport S starting in 22? Build everything above Sport S with 4.10, hitch, cooling, brake, fender, and alternator upgrades.

Played around in the JGCL and with the UConnect 5. It’s a gem. The cameras and Nav system are awesome as well.

TBH I think it’s restricted airflow. The Ram with the same drivetrain is not having those issues. I need a winch and this has me a little puckered.

Perhaps it’s $95 more than the regular glass ($605).

My new work car (2020 charger) has the Uconnect 4 and it’s a good system. Be real excited to see how the 5 works.

Na, if it’s rated to tow 6k it should be able to tow 6k under 95% of the conditions and roads in US. Otherwise it’s a fail. The JT is advertised by Jeep towing a massive bumper pull trailer after all. The DEF freezing issues some JTs owners experienced over the fall was bs as well.

They would probably do what they are doing with JGC L, offer the 5.7 in the highest trim levels. So only put it in the Rubicon, Mojave, and High Altitude. That way the 3.6 still sells.

Waiting on Earl to order my diesel JT. With that said I just got a 2020 charger as a work vehicle and I’m truly surprised with the initial fuel economy, 26 (hand) highway going 70 to 75 mph

Considering the 5.7 is a $3295 option in JGC L I’d say many JT owners would jump at the option over the absurd 392 starting price over the cost of a Rubicon (32k more)

I was sad to read the new Dakota was killed off. I think a Dakota with IFS and the cab room of the Gladiator would be awesome. I’d like to see it with the I6 turbo, standard safety, standard electronics packages, reg can, crew cab, 5’ and 6’ bed options. Would sell very well. I’d go for an...

Yep. I was very disappointed I had to cancel by Bronco order. I prefer IFS as I do not crawl at all. Only mud, sand, and fire trails. The SFA in the JT is just something I’m going to have learn to love.

Na. The Defender has a similar wheelbase as the Bronco and Wrangler and smokes them both in 2 door and 4 door configurations when comparing payload and towing. The Bronco towing and payload SUCK due to the suspension set up. The Bronco truck’s towing/payload will also SUCK without major...

From a former dealership owner. Before he sold the dealership he begged me not to order a 21. Said he wasn’t sold on bugs being worked out. His opinion is the Bronco is a highly capable and complex off-road oriented SUV that is going to have a tough rollout. He also owned a Jeep/Ram, and Hyundai...

Sharing the same platform does not equate to having the same capabilities. See the 2022 Tundra/2023 4Runner/Tacoma. They will have the same platform but end up with vastly different tow and payload. The 2023 Ranger and Bronco will share the same frame/powertrain but that’s about it. I don’t see...

Except the Gladiator can tow and required the ram suspension to be added. Plus FCA no longer had the Dakota. The Ram is a full size on its own platform.

Paying a high lease penalty probably wouldn’t make sense with the high resale values right now. I’d buy the lease out and sell, trade, or keep.

Bronco truck is not going to tow more without significant suspension changes. The Bronco only tows 3500 lbs in all configurations. The Redesigned 23 Ranger is going to tow at least 7k it will be built next to the Bronco, and have Tremor/Raptor trims. I don’t see any motivation for Ford to make a...

I’d even take an updated 5.2