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Strip it back to stock, including wheels and tires if applicable. The price will be the same regardless.

Appreciate that, many people form opinions without owning or driving certain vehicles ;)

Curious if you own one?

Love the analogy! Gladiators and Defenders are expensive niche toys….I get amused at how many folks will go apeshit defending their choice. Reality is they are an iteration of an original, they are not the Wrangler either, so if you go balls deep in either you might eat crow. Honestly, I feel...

Tata vs Stellantis….I’m enjoying the change ? I’m one of the few who actually off road, the reality is only a small percentage of Jeep and JLR actually do this. considering my last few Jeeps the fact that the Defender is running I’m already impressed ?

Little wider, but not by much….visibility and handling are improved so it’s not noticeable. I honestly was surprised to learn that it is wider, I took it on the same trails that used to be challenging for my gladiator, and the 90 made it look easy the tight fits did not seem so cumbersome. The...

I’m thinking you will love it! Did you get the P400? If you did , the power and torque is next level!

As long as I’m not giving Stellantis anymore money I’ll embrace the suck ;)

I’m excited about this as well!

Definitely will be on my radar now!! Dammit! Main reason for the Defender allure is the towing (for me), so we shall see how the Grendadier stacks up…

Thanks, or something? Little weird, but ok

Can sympathize with your friend….I’m car person, buy enough of em you know the risk, yet we never learn.

Yup, 3 out of my last 4 Jeeps were problematic, so I’m used to the gamble:) the doodads are simply outstanding!

I know…

No sir, no market adjustment! If you order one (assuming the dealer is not a dick) it’s the price as ordered…. however, if you were to find one on the lot like this, you’ll be paying 15 to 30k markup regardless of dealer ?

Funny you should ask, she drove it off the lot!!! ?

Been a good ride all! I have both supported Jeep over the years and often dogged Jeep publicly (while driving one?). Over the past 20 years I have have developed a fondness for the rugged capability of these toys, and will undoubtedly reminisce and look at the pictures of all we have done with...

Call a local lemon law lawyer as It’s relatively easy for them. They will tell you whether or not you have a case, and a good one will tell you how to make a bulletproof case. Be patient with it, the process is kind of excruciating. I see some folks are mentioning talking to the service...

Good point, driving habits are probably the most overlooked aspect of tire size.

Minimal impact maybe 1-2mpgs…but they are going to seem huge compared to what you have now, true diameter will be around 33.75in for most 35’s installed.