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Well, you may be right. But getting laughed out of the market; Naw. No one cares anymore what you call it. That was old school. It is a hand to mouth world these days. History only means something to old dudes like me. Give a Gladiator a 500hp engine and people will buy it, if priced...

Yep! Maybe, You guys could start a new flamer suspension thread. Leaf springs vs Coils vs Coil Overs vs Airbags vs hydraulics vs whatev. I only know, that when Jeep went to coils in the Wrangler ( TJ ) it was a game changer. Back to the Main topic: I think Stellas new 3.0 straight 6 turbo...

I for one; Am tired of excuses just to raise the profit margin. 6.4, 5.7, and etc along with the heavier springs isn't another 50 grand. (I read that you were taking about the DIEsel). Same transmission. It is bullet-proof. Heavier steering parts? Pull the other leg. Stella can do it...

I'm not sure. Which hotel are you in? I'm fixin' to get kicked out. Lol

It doesn't have to be. They can settle for 2nd or 3rd place against Ford and Chevy. And find little ways to make super cars and jeeps to make fast money and make them crazy fast. For 50 grand more. But the JT could be THE 1/2 ton truck to have. Blow out the Taco, Ranger, and GM stuff...

100 percent. Put in more power, but with the 5.7. Maybe charge 4 grand more for it. Most jeepers don't need or want race cars. They want a jeep with more power. I have the 6.4 in our Challenger. It is too much for simple 4 wheeling. Stella: Remember the middle class. 100K Jeeps is...

I have the BackRack brand head ache bar on my F250. Love it. Stack long lumber on it, etc. But, it looks like the Jeep JT isn't something they build for. If they did, I would have one on my JT.

Impressive Report!!!!

Interesting. I know a contractor that gets 250k miles out of the pentastar 3.6 in his RAM vans. Swear by them. But his employees drive them hard. Been going on for years with many commercial units and with contractors. And RAM still offers them. Funny how the internet is. Can't tell...

You win. I will shut up now. Thank you Sir

Racers and wanna be, swap cams w/o issue to change the cams lobe angle for performance, not as a repair for a bad cam. Well, maybe they do. I did it a long time ago. As a wanna be. Get more performance... But a bad cam in a factory engine repair? A warranty repair? What else was damaged...

You know more than I. I think it has more to do with collateral damage to the bearing surface on the head when a cam goes south. And other collateral damage to everything in the valve train. Some things are unseen. Can't be measured while under stress in operation. On engines that cost...

You guys know way more than I. I swapped cams back in the day as well. But more recently I worked a bit for a high end car shop. The tenure techs said no way would they swap a cam without the head as well. It all has to do with matching the bearing faces to high tolerance. As well as...

BMW and Mercedes do it all the time. Most aircraft engine companies do it. Can you just buy a cam on a very modern vehicle and not the head? I guess that you can. But the high end cams are matched to the head. So, cam replace isn't the solution. Head and cam replacement is. Because the...

Good question. I, personally, don't give a rats ass about a ticking sound From an engine unless it gets progressively louder. All this talk of the 3.6 cams can make us paranoid.

I would assume that the cams and heads are made by the same company. They should be. They should be matching sets. Matched within tolerances. And cams kept with individual heads. And labeled R and L specific. Different subs build them, but matching sets within the sub. Like BMW and...

Someone knows. Somewhere, there is a bad person or sub in the mix.

I would like to know, if any of you have the ability to check the stats.... What is the cam failure rate of the Stella 3.6 worldwide? A little detective work and Stella could narrow it down to region, facility, and maybe even a shop lead, line employee or two. Or is it just a hit and miss...

30 grand was A LOT of money in 2003!! Esp for a Jeep.

My two cents... Long story.. My guess. Not facts... but... The 392 JL had full time 4wd ONLY because that 392 puts out serious HP and if Jeep kept them 2wd / 4wd selectable, people would blow out the rear 44 or driveshaft. Keeping it always in 4wd would share the power front and back. The...