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Hang a merc off the tailgate, extra help for those deeper river crossings.

It definitely was the copper brown. I had to compare a bunch of colors, mango tango was one of them, there was a copperhead pearl, and amp’d orange in the mix too but it was definitely copper brown. All good choices though.

I saw a wrangler today in a color I do not believe I’ve seen before. I had to track it down, and concluded that it was a 2015 in copper brown pearl. Very nice looking rig, I’d be full in on that.

Lol I like how fast this disappears from the latest posts page. I guess that’s a good thing really. But yeah I had a great experience with them, they treated me very well on my trade. They definitely like to deal and it’s nice they offer more than the standard $1000 off brand discount. Their Ram...

Mine only occurs at cold startup until the rpms settle. With a warm engine it is smooth. Not that I want to pick the minivan engine scab but my mother in law has a dodge caravan that does the exact same thing at startup. Always has, and they have like 120k on it now with no issues. I think it’s...

Update with a few prices of rigs currently on their lot. White Mojave (nav, tow pkg) MSRP $57,285 current list $49,837. Blue Sport Max Tow MSRP $49,605 current list $42,660. Black High Altitude MSRP $57,465 current list $48,844. They have 13 other gladiators in the lot right now.

I guess I have not noticed any issue with it at all nor heard of it being an issue? It doesn’t affect the tailgate at all for closing and it’s very pliable so putting stuff in the bed is easy enough. I’d be curious to know the complaints because I really like it.

I have a smartliner in mine. It is thick and heavy, I really like it. I bought it to tide me over until I get the bed lined, but now I decided I want both. It’s really nice to keep stuff from sliding.

You said Toyota didn’t half ass it. Ok. They have a higher rated stick for towing. They have an overall weaker engine that gets worse gas mileage. So. My point was they clearly didn’t full ass it, they didn’t have or implement all the solutions to make a universal vehicle. They didn’t even make...

They might have half assed it a little bit with the smaller, weaker engine that still gets worse fuel economy somehow. Just because the trans and suspension can handle more doesn’t mean it’ll do it any better. Still a midsize.

Well 8th might not exist at all with a tow mode. Depends on what kind, some are engineered to shorten shifts and some just simply lock out O/D. This thing kind of does both. It’s not perfect, but it adapts really quickly from what I’ve experienced, though I haven’t touched the weight youre...

Most manuals nowadays are pretty weak units. Auto manufacturers haven’t put any R&D into them at all, and they have done all kinds of work on auto transmissions. Used to be you’d expect several mpgs higher on a manual 5spd trans over an auto 4 or 5spd even with OD, and that’s not the case...

Ha! I live in Detroit lakes. I bought my grand Cherokee from corwin and said never again. Didn’t even look when I bought the JT

Thought I’d throw this on here if allowed. Jeff Belzers in the Minneapolis/St Paul metro currently has 17 gladiators in stock and discounted. I bought mine from them in June. They were one of only two dealerships in the entire state of Minnesota offering more than the standard $1000 off with...

It looks good on the high altitude. It’s so glossy it seems to fit with the fancier trim. I was hoping to see more outrageous color clash pics in this thread. 2?! That’s all we can do?! And one was volunteered by the owner….really disappointed.

I’m sure we’ll never know but I’m curious why Jeep offered the package two separate ways. I have a willys, which is a sport model, but not the “Willys sport”. I have the Willys upgrades (7” connect, rails, slush mats, remote start, all the stickers) plus options that are not available for the...

Not with the JT yet, but with my WK I definitely forgot that a lift makes things taller. Didn’t put 2+2 together very well, tried to roll into the garage like normal with kayak racks on. Whoops… hurt the Jeep much more than the door frame for sure.

So if you disputed, got reimbursed by Amex, then told amex to stop the dispute, did they charge you for the order again or did you get it for free??

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I hate this, tell “Tony” in Toledo, Ohio where he just built the Jeep that it’s Italian. Doesn’t matter what parent company owns them, I’m guessing the vendors have stayed mostly the same since before the JK. In the case of the 500x platform Jeeps you have a point maybe but it’s still stupid.