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That's their bed, I sleep in mine. Although I admit to inviting the survivors to sleep in my bed and share my meals while they still can.

LOL, I hope I don't have a third fire as well. I had high hopes for the 7.3 gasser and don't discount them now. I do hope they turn them up a little bit more when they have some experience with them. I have a place in the Matanuska Valley in AK and also in East Texas. In East Texas I have an...

If pointing out your absence of practical experience while promoting conjecture and opinion as fact constitutes "being an asshole" you'll just have to get over it. The Gladiator is an excellent value, there is no other production vehicle with the capability or feature set of the Gladiator...

Head gasket and oil pump drive gears are known points of failure and significant ones. Do they make power? Sure, not saying otherwise. But America's oldest automaker should have things like sintered steel oil pump drive gears and head gaskets sorted out by now. Every manufacturer makes some...

So you're telling me your sole personal experience with an automobile is one Honda Excrement and you're basing this preponderance of conjecture on that one car? And your Dad bought your sibling a used AMC that was 2 years old? When 40 years ago? Please man.

Huh, ok. I usually buy stuff because it is a good value and is reliable. Not that it is a deciding factor today, but despite owning multiple Big 3, Toyota, Hyundai and VW (and a virulent hate for VW as a result) the only vehicle I have ever had catch fire while I was driving it was a Ford...

I don't get the Ford love, I haven't owned one in a couple of decades but I don't see anything too impressive. Fleet sales artificially inflate their numbers. They fucked the 5.0 up The EB engines have been plagued with valve train issues and turbo consumption Transmission and clutch...

Imagine the sound if you threw a bucket full of brake shoes into a tree limb chipper.........

Conceivably an issue on Subaru and possibly other all wheel drive systems. Not even a problem on a Jeep.

Irrespective of springing the difference in tow capacities is directly related to the weight of the Rubicon.

Go drive both of them and get back to me.

Was it shipped "Smart Post"? If it was UPS tracking would show it delivered when they dropped it at the post office. Shippers will use that method with some frequency because it is cheap. It does however suck.

I paid $577 shipped for mine and consider(ed) it a good deal at that price. I will admit that $100 less makes me a little jelly, but not so much that I don't read :)

OK fine, now back to the business of winches.

I'm not greedy, I'm trying to meet on common ground here. I won't take the food of your table, but I'll damn sure drink your whiskey and toast your insolence!

I will only accept your apology if you send me the whiskey. IM for shipping instructions.

https://www.smittybilt.com/gen2_winches.html

Entirely different winch

Disinclined to load a credit card number in there without more info on digisec

I wouldn't expect there to be any significant difference, that lift is designed to retain original ride and handling characteristics. There seems to be a pretty wide spectrum of experiences with the Gladiators and the way they drive and handle. I have no complaints with mine in either...