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I pulled a random build sheet for an Overland off the tracking thread: GVW Rating - 5800# FWIW, Rubicon build sheets list this: GVW Rating - 6250#

Pics of the dealer rolling a Grand Caravan loaner off the flatbed please! Good luck with the resolution - must be really frustrating.

@Carlton Thanks for starting the thread - can't wait to see more Jeep parking, photo critiques, and civil engineering parking lot theory in here. :LOL:

She'll get me to 88 mph, that's all I need aside from "One-point-twenty-one Jiggawatts!!"

Please join the other MT waiters over here: https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/manual-transmission-club.17084/

Yesterday's update: VON: 43834264 VIN: 1C6JJTBGXLL124896 ORDERING CUSTOMER NAME: megamucho ETA N/A Status: Scheduling Phase (D) 015 days in We appreciate your patience with us while we launch this exciting new product, at this time I have found your vehicle order status, currently we do not...

With so much being driven by supply chain logistics and dependencies on suppliers, I think the process understanding would be useful but ultimately unable to explain why any particular truck is delayed.

My YJ had soft top and half-doors with the removable sail cloth/frame "windows". I don't even think that thing had door locks - I sure never used them. For ppl who are nervous about the top being so insecure, don't even begin to think about the engine bay being accessible to anyone who walks...

In this case, the French... since their gov’t essentially shut down this merger which would have benefitted all of the participating companies. However, I think generally it applies to all of the societies you have mentioned to a certain degree, but that’s a discussion to have in an off-topic...

My only thought is that the phrase "The people get the government they deserve" has never been more appropriate than in this case.

Congrats - hoping you are clearing the way for my order to go thru soon, though I suspect my manual trans choice is going to keep me in D status for some time yet. :|

I have skimmed the electronic owner’s manual for the JT, and there is a passage in there about hill-hold being used for the manual transmission. I don’t recall specifics, but the description from the manual leads me to believe that it’s based on residual braking system pressure being managed by...

Some other perspective on Elon's latest statement regarding pickups: https://www.autoblog.com/2019/06/03/tesla-pickup-truck-price-analysis/ The wait for JT LE would seem like nothing compared to waiting for the <$50k Tesla truck

Thanks for posting. I agree with his assessment to some extent - I was able to drive a 6MT JL back to back with an 8AT Gladiator Overland. The automatic is so good in these trucks, but ultimately the fun is more with the stick, IMO. Keeping $2k in my pocket was the final thing that put me into...

Thanks for posting - I like your planned mod path. Here's what I'm leaning towards for bumper on my Rubicon. Stubby, functional, sexy, and reasonably priced... also appreciate that it's already set with winch tray...

This is my goal as well - we shall see how well I do with that. LOL I was unable to keep it as basic as yours, but sticking to the 6MT, cloth, unpainted fenders/roof put me a hair over $50k for my JTR with below invoice pricing.

Five hun-do for me on JT and for any other time I've put a deposit for a car.

IMO you should get the transmission you want to live with while you lease. You can use the lease calculator on jeep.com to get an idea about difference in payments between two builds, which is really what would matter unless you believe you would buy the Sport at lease end.

Thanks - I knew they put some specific detail on the label but forgot that it was payload rather than towing...

+1 for Faricy going under invoice. Not as strong as some out of state, but convenience and supporting local businesses wins out over saving a few hundred dollars in my book.