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My response would be 95% of standardized name-brand products (not services) are priced more or less uniform despite these differences in fixed costs across geographic areas. That's mainly because major cost differences reflect a higher revenue capacity at the location - at the extreme end a 5...

Those warranties are non-transferable dealer-specific warranties that require all of the factory scheduled maintenance to be performed at the issuing dealership. They're legit as far as they go, but they remove the possibility of doing your own maintenance or using a third party shop, and...

Agree except the bolded part. I feel that part is like me saying I should get to date models because I have different attractiveness requirements :) But otherwise yeah, some places are high margin, others high volume, etc. Nothing wrong with that. What I don't like is dealers (seemingly more...

For a turbo I-6 I'd wait months if I were an automatic buyer. For a Hemi + manual (aka Challenger combo) I'd cool my jets for a year :)

"Corning Gorilla Glass"

Fair enough, you seem like a good dude and I hope you enjoy your Jeep. That said it's my experience that a reluctance to cite details is usually accompanied by the details not being in one's favor. The costs here aren't that complicated :) I don't know that this means. MSRP and invoice...

This is a good post, thanks. I'm on the east coast and have some great local options, but as was shared in another thread referencing this post, this dealer get a lot right: *transparent pricing (which also looks good for the area for those who can't or don't want to drive) *promise to honor...

Wait so after all this the dealer is only 8% under MSRP? I'm confused then - why did you post and claim it was an 8+% under invoice deal? For what it's worth, the price delta vs Gupton here should be just over $3,000 (without financing with them, greater savings if you do). Everyone has to...

Missed the memo? Lol, from a one-week shutdown two months ago?! When in doubt if you have to guess between “factory running normally” vs “unprecedented months long shutdown” assuming the former will see you right about 95% of the time :)

Good luck with sale. Sending positive vibes to a seller willing to ship wheels!

Good luck with sale. Your garage looks super nice! Also maybe you can do a package deal with the other DFW Mopar tube-door seller who listed the same day! :)

Different (worse?) offset though. Also, just FYI, Rubicon take-off sets are pretty common on the member classified subforum.

If it ends up being legit when you pick it up let us know. Always good to have more options of dealers who want to fight for our business!

Here’s some fine print from the FCA-side affiliate webpage: “Dodge Challenger Demon, 2020 Jeep®Wrangler Hybrid, and all FIAT® 500e and Ram TRX models are currently not eligible for this program. FCA US LLC reserves the right to alter the ineligible vehicle list at any time.” Here’s fine print...

Good deal :) Wait though, does this mean Gupton said you could order a MY21 still? Because other thread said they were closed, so would be nice to have it confirm the other poster was mistaken.

Tread Lightly advertises the deal heavily. I would expect the deal to be honored for 365 days from September 30th 2021 (so basically up to Sept 29 2022) based on existing advertising.

See if they’ll let an order go in. Would be weird for Gupton to be wrong, but maybe there was a misunderstanding by the thread poster.

I’m glad this is on the way to being resolved and you’ll get your deposit back. Nothing that’s happened subsequent to the order changes that this was a dealer error and you didn’t get the truck you wanted. And I’m glad you’re going to have a path forward to get what you want and at potentially a...

This. Also, do we have any confirmation Noah the salesman TOLD the sales manager any of what he emailed you about? It's perfectly clear that Noah messed up and that he's admitted to that, but do we know if any of that got passed along? See it from the manager's perspective: customer walks in...

Well yeah, but should that extend to ordering a $50k vehicle and fronting all the cash with zero exposure for the customer? I hate most dealers but that level of exposure for them seems a bit extreme :)