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Only if something was actually done wrong with the order. Dealer is claiming the order is right, which is a very strong point in their favor if true. It seems, of course, that the dealer is lying, but from the Jeep side are they just supposed to assume the dealer is lying when they say they...

It's unlikely a 2022 will be significantly worse, and could be a good bit better. If I wasn't Gecko-crazed I'd have waited.

You had to go and make your photoshop Hemi have a manual option too didn't you :crying:

I half agree with this. I do wonder if some people complaining about low response rates are being less clear and direct in their willingness to order and order now than they are representing in their posts. My buddy and I have now ordered a combined four vehicles from him and his average...

I agree! But I thought we were talking about realtors :) Okay, I'm done being an a-hole in this thread, but I've been thinking about the realtor thing since this morning and I don't want to go to bed, so I'll try to engage with @sharpsicle and anyone else who wants to try to expand my mind or...

Do you know if these will fit Mojave seats? Because Quadratec sure doesn't! :(

I gotcha. Anyways again your dealer sucks, and best of luck going through the card issuer to try to get the funds back. I wasn't trying to pile on, I just wanted to try to offer my perspective in case someone else has a similar issue down the road.

Car dealers and car buying culture psychology is powerful. People on this forum, who represent an informed subset of buyers no less, go in to look at Sport JLs or JTs and walk out with TRXs. Certainly not every time, but it's hard for me to wrap my head around it happening ever. Sure some people...

I think you're misunderstanding things. Yes Gupton builds 1% for using his financing into the deal. That just means his dealership arranges the Financing. They get a kickback of 2% or whatever and pass 1% back to us. Any reputable factory order will also allow customers to get any eligible...

How many new Wranglers + Gladiators did you move this past week? I'm sure you're right about your volume levels in normal times, but it's hard for me to reconcile "huge shortages so no need to discount" with "no one moves more product than us." I'm sure you're talking in good faith, but I...

In my professional opinion, they're actually selling the parents, who generally have the cash. Yes some kids just take on loans and don't understand the magnitude of that decision, but a lot of the 'Club Med College' amenities and offerings are to sell the parents that they really are providing...

Thanks. The dealer sucks and I’m glad you named and shamed them. My only advice for anyone reading who might have a similar experience is re: this exchange: “Snarky jerk behind the counter, ‘Your order didn't get messed up. Deposits are non-refundable. Did you order your Gladiator in...

DeLand here. I love I-4. I lived in the DC suburbs for 10+ years and dealt with a city full of transplants and their combination of driving fear (snow, rain, the sun(!)) plus their constant cell-phone usage. Commutes took forever. People on I-4 move. You might wonder whether that makes them...

If the window sticker is available that means the Jeep is fully assembled as I understand things. I'd reach out to your dealer re: shipping timetables.

I think this is really fair. My post was probably too strong. Jeep Cares does have some power, and I think like in your example where rules were being violated or you were being told something objectively false, that was more in their wheelhouse. Now, I do also think the "I've heard of this -...

Yep, that sounds super fair. No entitlement on either, but we get to vote with our wallets :)

Lexus also sells expensive Toyotas (not only that, they also sell the be-still-my-heart-gorgeous LC coupe). Guess what your 30% markup gets you? Part of it is the dealership experience. It's up to each buyer to decide whether those sort of 'soft' benefits are worthwhile.

No. There's like a one-year "waiting list" but there have also been delays because Ford doesn't know how to execute a vehicle launch in this space. The day that 'waiting list' is exhausted there will be 50 Broncos selling at or below MSRP at every large dealer - much of the enthusiast demand is...

I'll try to offer something constructive given the total absence of details: I think this forum over-emphasizes things like Cash Managers, Jeep Cares, Customer Care, or anything corporates. This isn't an airline or a bank, it's a very de-centralized industry. I am not defending dealers (most...

OP, I am not defending the dealership, they suck hard. But two things: 1) why would you mention Gupton before you have cash in hand? I get it’s your right but man I just don’t see the upside other than 5 seconds of gratification. 2) could you say more directly (apologies if I’m dumb and I...