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i hope hes right on pricing, a sport s around 35 i believe is reasonable.

I personally go the opposite on this. My choices on my next vehicle are a Jeep Truck or Tundra Platinum. The Tundra has not been redesigned and the power train is proven and is obviously more capable being a full size pickup and the platinum can be had around 50k. Now here comes the new Jeep...

Start stop is the biggest thing keeping me from getting a stick shift JT, the fact that i could be on hill and my engine shuts off when i push in the clucth by design is so ridiculous. yes i can disabled it but it shouldnt even exist in the first place.

But why put a ceramic coating on a plastic fender? what's the advantages?

ceramic coating on plastic? only time Ive ever used ceramic coating is on an exhaust. Plastidip would be more practical for plastic fenders.

If I can get in a manual Sport S for 35k Ill bite, if not I'm going to get a full size most likely.

The big lure for me to the JT was that it came in stick. Very few trucks now come in stick and I have test drove every 4x4 one that does except the ram with a cummings due to being more than I need. The Tacoma is under powered and the Frontier is dated and slightly over priced. If my choice is...

The true test with this is going to be how many people it turns off from buying one. You put start stop in a hybrid you are catering to the demographic that buys hybrids but when you put start stop in a pick up truck most people dont buy a pick up for milage. start stop makes sense in hybrid...

I did see one thing that just automatically disables it when you start the car but it needs to remain in the OBD port all the time. I know its one of those things you can just remember to shut off everytime but the fact that you're still paying to have the stupid system in the first place, it...

As ridiculous as this is going to sound but if the Jeep truck comes standard with this silliness I am probably going to by a Tundra. I know its apples to oranges but i was holding out for the jeep because I want a stick shift but if I cant get a decent 4x4 stick my next check choice was a Tundra...

good to know its easily disabled. if i want my engine off ill shut it off. the amount of fuel used at idle so so miniscule i cant believe that this is actually something jeep has.

is this a standard feature that you cant disable? if so that will be a huge turn off, i absolutely hate vehicles that shut off like that, also how the hell the does AC work at all if the engine isnt running?

I disagree about the touch screen, the aftermark always offers better stereo options than factories ever have. If you go aftermarket with a stereo you can get one that runs android and put google maps and waze on it.

Im going to go too, I hope that maybe they'll have a sport s or one with a manual transmission there. im sure it'll just be an auto Rubicon though but will still be cool to see it in person.

Those are pretty cool! the harness is a bit over the top though but still, reminds me of riding in the back 'back' seat of an old station wagon facing backwards, used to want to ride back there even if the back seat was empty.

you're almost as funny as Jeff Dunham, go order a rubicon with crank windows, let me know how that goes. Better yet maybe you can order a sport with the ectronic sway bar disconnect. If the options are available from the factory it means the factory will build it and the dealer can a lot it for...

You guys can car shop your way but I'm just speaking from actual dealership knowledge. if you think a dealer sends your order to a manufacturer and then monday morning the work crew builds your vehicle you are mistaken. there is a reason why you can not order a sport model with features from an...

This is not the 1970s there is no such thing as "ordering" a vehicle unless you're talking about an ultra luxury or super car. Manufacturers do not accept customer orders. Dealers have allotments and they are able to pick and choose from that to what goes to each of their locations based on...

Personally id wait til they show up on lots. The best way to get deals on a vehicle is to buy whats on their lot. when you start wanting something not on the lot theres less wiggle room on price.

Or teach her stick! I've been trying to teach mine but she doesnt want to learn so i do all the driving.