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Sorry, I couldn't resist. Everytime I see this I giggle.

I am not trying to prove you wrong or right. I am also not going to do the research for you. I am just stating there are other things that would make the JTR look taller by a few inches without a lift. Plus a Mopar two inch left makes a difference on the JTR. So I think is highly unlikely...

There are differences. I am just saying that i don't think lift is one of them. Found this. It might help. https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/gladiator-overland-vs-rubicon I don't have any hard data that says there is or not a lift. I am thinking lack of proof of a lift is the proof...

Without a tape measure I don't know how to see what your trying to show?

I am 98% sure there is no lift on the the factory JTR's. The high different is from the fenders and the bigger tires (33's). I am 100% that I have never read anything about the JTR's having a lift from the factory. It also makes no sense to have a Mopar 2 inch lift if the stock JTR's already...

Interesting. Good to know. I knew about the tire thing. My brother had to keep runflats on his bwm for the same reason. Chips and dings are spelled out it the leasing paperwork. Both by size and how many. Touch-up piant is allowed to be used to filling the chips as well. I don't get...

It only takes two to three days to build and they ship them as fast as they can. Most of the time is not making the truck. It is waiting for it the parts to be lined up. Then it depends on an open spot in the production line. I would say 6 to 8 weeks is a save bet not knowing your options. 4...

The June 2th date you got is most likely the est. ship date.. aka when the truck is planned to come off the line. It is not a delivery date. Delivery dates are not figured out until after the truck is built and invoiced. I would add 2 weeks to the est ship date (aka ECD of line build) for...

Plant is closed Sunday and this Monday. If you est ship date is May 26 it hit the line late Saturday or will on Tuesday. The line takes about two to three days to finish a truck. You say no one is giving you an update but you know your in D1 with an est ship date. That is all the...

The rear suspension is completely different between the two. They are not interchangeable. Even the 2 door and 4 door JL's are really not interchangeable.

Yes it will blot on.

There is a sub centered behind the rear seat.

Day 4 for me. Hope your out on Tuesday.

If you are getting a bedliner. Seems to be about week or more. Without a bedliner 3 or 4 days is my guess.

What are the horror stories? was it mileage?, return issues?

Thank you for the lead. I just ordered a set too.

I was talking about a full soft top not the sunrider for hardtop.

Is it the right color?

You get two a control numbers a year if you don't use it. You can get it reinstated after the 6 months is up.

Go get it.