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The problem is then you're more dependent on more electric, electronic and software components / failure modes. Which requires going to the dealer if there's an issue. If that's not a big deal to someone, then I'd agree with your point.

Well, it is a hard top, so I can't argue..

I would run a locker in the front and one of those in the back, ideally. Although I'd probably stick with the rear stock lsd for a while if the clutches looked all right.

Thanks for reporting your experience. Very interested to hear more on the reimbursement process and how it works out for you.

Being that this is a safety issue and Jeep has no remedy, I really want to have Jeep reimburse me towards a correctly designed aftermarket clutch/flywheel

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It was intended for you and Bonanza (sorry meant to add him too). You both said the manual sucks, which was in response to Rahkmala saying the manual is a reason to get the Gladiator over other trucks. So I was just making both aware that the manual can be "fixed", and then you still have...

Easy to fix with a properly designed replacement from the aftermarket. And then you still have a manual, which the other trucks don't have (the original point that you responded to). You're aware of that, right? You also don't take the hardtop off? You're missing out on some fun, I...

Price increases and a couple new colors.

I echo what was said earlier. With the auto and sticking with stock sized tires, I really think you'll be fine just leaving it a lower gear and giving it some more rpms.

After watching some Ecoboost teardown videos, I think I'll let someone else be the guinea pig for doing maintenance/repair outside of warranty.

No manual is a buzz kill for me along with the Ecoboost motors as a whole. I like the front end update though.

I would've never guessed that friction in a clutch causes heat. Thanks Jeep for that explanation, that clears up everything

If you don't worry about having to go fast and a nice 0-60 to impress others, I think you'll really enjoy a Gladiator or Wrangler. Especially when it's time to take the top or doors off. Hard to get more smiles per gallon.

Didn't provide me any value for the additional ~$10k, so no. I'd rather put that towards being debt free sooner.

That's the other part of it I was wondering

That's the thing, I don't think it actually has any of those advantages (unless it's rated for more power/torque, which I admittedly don't know the rating off hand). So I'm still trying to figure out the reasoning to even use a dual disc, or was it just a horrible execution of that design by...

So far my Vin isn't on the recall (Oct 21 build)... I'm going Centerforce at some point regardless though so not too worried as long as it doesn't crap out tomorrow. EDIT: mine is listed now as of March 6. Wonder how long the "remedy" will take.

How they can screw up something so simple and proven boggles my mind.

There is something to be said for older simpler trucks. I don't think it's necessarily a tire size thing, it's just packaging trade-offs for a newer smaller truck that has more "stuff" to put somewhere, along with more restrictions on where stuff can be put. You could lift/level the Jeep...