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They use the same springs so I’d imagine that’s the case. The 3.5” Game Changer just builds on the True Dual Rate kit (all LCAs and RCAs, etc). I have an Overland and I feel like the back is a little squatty even without a load. I don’t have a steel bumper to weigh down the front tho.

I’m running the Metalcloak True Dual Rate 3.5” w their Rocksport shocks. I’m happy with it. I’m also running 37” KO2s. They’re a hair small (~36.5”), but they fit well. It looks good but sometimes I wonder if I should add 1” spacers. I have an Overland tho so the Rubi’s higher front fenders will...

Who is “they”? Cuz it’s your money paying for the salt to begin with unless you’re suggesting tax dollars be spent to winterize all vehicles ??

Is it possible that this is due to add-ons such as lifts and tires that wouldn’t be included on the sticker? Still seems high but I imagine that’s a contributor that a lot of other vehicles don’t necessarily have at anywhere near the same rate.

It’s running 4.7 gears?! Sheesh. That probably helps w the feel more than the engine itself. Not sure if people in this thread are testing different gear ratios because that would definitely affect their experience.

Maybe I missed it, but what suspension setup is OP running? Some lifts, including Jeep’s Mopar lift, don’t address the track bar and that’s been a big issue for the JL/JT. The dealer will swap out your stabilizer and call it a day, but from what I’ve seen it’s often time related to the weak...

Imagine being a Jeep dealer surprised that someone would lift their Jeep :headbang:

We talking about the guy w his own forum, that has a particular Way of Living? Otherwise I’m lost (like most times in life)

Or if you’re even mildly handy you can cut that price in half and install it yourself with basic tools. I installed my Metalcloak True Dual Rate by myself in my driveway and it was my first major DIY suspension projects. Love it. As for the gearing, why not drive it first and see what you’re...

Love the reference. Show is hilarious.

As they should. I don’t want to pay for a Jeep that has a CD player, cassette player, and 8-track player cuz a tiny segment of drivers don’t adopt change. It’s cheaper and weighs less. You can put an aftermarket stereo in if it’s something you’re passionate about.

3.73 and 37 BFG KO2s in NEO. No issues on the pavement. I don’t have a heavy foot and I don’t expect it to be fast, but it’s definitely not a dog. I credit the 8-spd tranny.

Except right now I can get more than I bought it for last year ? crazy times

I think you have my point backwards. It’s the presence of the FAD that would limit interest. If there was no FAD you’d have tons of interest in a beefy D44 axle that can be swapped into all kinds of vehicles. It becomes a niche market w the FAD.

I think the problem with these new axles is the Front Axle Disconnect. It really limits who would be interested in purchasing. It’s too much tech to swap into a non-JT/JL build, and the FAD itself is a weak point for “serious” builds.

That is such a clean build! Well thought out and executed ??

OP is worried about 1:1 scenarios on whether he should replace the entire axle for gears (what?!), but is moving to 4.88s based on gas engine performance and not diesel, which is not 1:1 scenario. Logic is par for the course in 2021. A lot of great advice was given by this community of experts...

2 years and countless rain, snow, and ice storms. Removed dozens of times with zero leaking or squeaking issues. For those of you who took it off once and won’t do it again cuz it caused issues, I’d say that’s a perfect reason to take it off again. Maybe you overtightened or misaligned...

You’ll love it. Drive it for a bit to see how it feels before deciding on gears. I went with 3.5” lift and 37 inch KO2s (ya ya, they run a hair small) and it hasn’t been nearly unbearable for me even with 3.73s. It’s my daily driver and I don’t have a heavy foot, but power is not an issue. It...

It’s the departure angle for the new Extreme Recon Wrangler (lift and 35’s). It’s pointing to the rear/departure angle so the guesses regarding power train etc don’t really hold water. Great to see the Jeep community already reaping the benefits of Bronco competition...