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Local detailing shop quoted me around $120 to do it for me. If 5 cans cost ~$50 I guess $70 to not have to deal with it isn't terrible. Hmm...

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/the-last-gladiator-tailgate-badge-you-will-ever-need.41480/ This? Edit: I guess that's not pointy, I was thinking you meant bigger first/last letters.

I'd be bummed if true lol

Which tonneau is that? Works well with the yakima rack?

Good to know, thanks! Where up north? I might bug you for some good spots to hit. We go up here and there for camping/wheeling.

6%+ cleaning vinegar and 3%+ hydrogen peroxide (used separately) work wonders for mold remediation. I normally clean with one, then clean with the other to make sure it's dead. Bleach actually doesn't do a great job because the molecules are large and it doesn't permeate as deeply in porous...

Hey fellow Southeast Michigander! How do you like it? Notice a big difference?

Yeah totally. It just depends on how much you trust someone's opinion basically. I'm more cynical since I live it every day.

Right, and I'm telling you it's not that black and white. The level of "fact and data" required to make those decisions is different for every decision. For some people subjective evaluation is enough. For others benchmark + subjective evaluation is required. And for others human factors...

I can't get too in-depth for... reasons... but a lot of the limits for new technologies is a good example. Minimum speed for ICC? Maximum speed? Blind spot monitoring? All of that was sort of picked by what sounded good at the time, before the systems or any regulations existed. Every OEM was...

Where did you get the 12/6 date? It depends on the backlog, I have no idea how many will be ordered between now and then. If they get consistent orders then it'll push yours out. If they don't it won't.

You'd probably be surprised hah. Sure human factors and ergonomics has a lot of "rule of thumb" things but there are also a lot of things that were relatively arbitrarily decided because there was no original rule of thumb, then it sort of sticks.

No doubt they study it (I'm an automotive engineer BTW). I watch it happen every day. But it's also important to remember what it's like to get a car full of people to agree on what's for dinner. Same situation happens. You're going to have one that's angry, one that's stoked and the others...

Lmao, this is exactly how vehicles are designed. Every bad idea or "dumb" decision in a consumer's eyes is generally the result of a bunch of conflicting internal opinions with a "pin the tail on the donkey" type game for picking the right value. Hmmm yeah, 40*F sounds good!

Over landing, hiking and camping!

Lmk if you need backups or replacements. I might make a FS post for 3D printed services so people know I exist lol

I could print and send out some for anyone who needs them, just DM me.

JT launch was similar. Imagine if they had the same volume to deal with too.

Neighbor brought one home the other day. I think they look amazing. Not sure how they could do better to be honest. They're also insanely capable. The lockers and disconnects are SO much better than traditional tech. Would love for jeep to step it up.

CAD (Cardboard Aided Design) is the best in my opinion. That's how I'd do it (source: automotive engineer).