M/T Gladiator vs M/T Tacoma

[ALVagabond]

Wake me up when Toyota decides to ditch the rear drum brakes and go with something a little more modern.

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[jalbrecht55]

No no they are better off-road according to the Tacoma chief engineer ha. After owning both a 73 CJ-5 and a 47 CJ-2a with four wheel drums I know they don’t work hardly at all once you get them wet or muddy. But at least they hold the mud inside forever as well.

 

[WhatExit?]

Wake me up when Toyota decides to ditch the rear drum brakes and go with something a little more modern.

Wake me up when Toyota's Tacoma:
* Doesn't have seats so close to the floor with an uncomfortable seating position
* Has a screen larger than my iPhone's
* Has any advanced technology
* Has a modern engine in it
* Has a modern transmission in it
* Has offroading upgrades that are much more than their TRD STICKER OPTION

Toyota makes high quality vehicles BUT they're antiquated in today's car & truck market. You get very little for all your dollars with most every vehicle they make.

And bonus: Most of their vehicle designs are awful. They make a terrific car called the Supra. But its gawdawful styling is a cold shower on an otherwise hot package

 

[jalbrecht55]

In their defense the base turd off road package is pretty reasonable (typical pretax/fee price $33.5k if you can truly find a unicorn no options off-road) and does come standard with a rear locker, all the usual power stuff, radar cruise/safety crap, 8” screen that stays a full 8” screen with car play. The motor kinda sucks for a truck but is pretty modern with DI and Atkinson cycle.... though with all that it seems to use more gas than the Jeep.

I still think the real issue isn’t the tech it’s the platform/cab design. Toyota doesn’t really care they will sell Tacoma’s no matter how compromised they are. See South Park IT episode.

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