Scratching my head over complaints

[Cleankat]

Hi Brandon,
We're sorry to hear about your steering concern. Are you considering having this addressed? Feel free to send our team a PM if assistance is needed while working with your dealer.
Alex
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Appreciate the note. I haven't had a chance to go into the dealer for it, but I was just under the impression that's how these were so I haven't bothered to go in!

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[betsy]

Appreciate the note. I haven't had a chance to go into the dealer for it, but I was just under the impression that's how these were so I haven't bothered to go in!

I'm going to go out on a limb here ,after owning several jeep products ,and working for a jeep dealer bac in the early 80's , I really love my gladiator , and I think jeep has come very far on every level with these new vehicles ,and I think daveark said it best about folks not owning jeep products in the past for comparison.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Appreciate the note. I haven't had a chance to go into the dealer for it, but I was just under the impression that's how these were so I haven't bothered to go in!

Frankly, there's no real reason for these not to handle very well on speeds up to moderate. Solid axle or not, there are still basic angles and geometry built in. And some we have proven actually have issues that aren't "just how they are".
It can't hurt to have things checked - all bolts, toe-in, and angles like caster. It's not changeable per se, but I was looking over an alignment sheet for a fellow's JT and frankly, I was amazed the factory sent it out that way. Toe was way off - the steering wheel could not have been centered, and frankly, I could see how it wandered with so little caster.
Granted you can't tune them like IFS - but still - there are angles that are NOT unique to solid axles that can be used to make them very road-worthy, NOT wander, and give them some road-feel to the steering.
Yours may be fine - but it's new, and from the alignment sheets I've seen, people commenting about just checking and aligning and tightening things up how it actually helped - even if only some.
I KNOW they can steer and handle great- mine does. With more miles if seems to be feeling lighter - and as you describe, perhaps "floaty" is a word, not as much steering or road feel as there was the first month or so. It's not loose, so no worries there. The wheels respond.
I can take mine up - too fast to admit here - and not feel like I was about to lose control. But I think I'll check mine over (if I can find torque specs, etc. - otherwise I'll use my standard suspension and steering torque charts)

 

[Trippin01]

I am so happy. Like you I have other cars. I'm thinking that if I were to have a JT as an only car/everyday driver, I would go nuts. But thats because I have a Lexus 2018 RX450h and a Turbo Veloster (love this little car as my "daily runner") That said we love the rag top, 4x4 and off-road travel trailer pulling to the back of the back woods. But, with that said. for slick roads I like the Lexus, for deep snow I like the JT, for going up and down the highway, it just isn't the JT. The JT is our recreational vehicle, and it shines in this role. I have no disappointments for what it is and what it does, its a trail and off road beast, but its a bull in a china shop when it comes to town driving, so I don't use it for that, and you'l be as happy me. Its a specialty rig that is in a class all its own and exactly what I wanted.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

LOL - the bull in the china shop was my Silverado. I liked the truck - but NOT for in-town or city driving. Parking it was a pain in the butt - especially shopping centers with their ever-shrinking parking spots and although it turned sharper than my Ford truck ever did - this JT blows the Chevy away when it comes to parking in tight spots or in the city driving.
If I REALLY want to get into short spots or turn sharp, nothing beats the SX4 - it's turning radius is tiny, it's SHORT, and it will go anywhere. I've parked it at busy events where others couldn't - meaning up on the spots other cars couldn't climb up onto. (over tall curbs and onto areas too short for other vehicles to park in)
My JT is fast becoming a D-D for me. The WJ sits a lot now although with better weather I may get it out and fix the anti-lock brake error.
My JT has become our "going shopping" vehicle, my run to Menards vehicle and tomorrow, I'll be delivering a load of snow to Omaha and picking up some tires........

I can understand liking the little Hyundai - they have made solid cars for some time and they scoot right along. Good economy - what, guessing about 30 or so?

 

[Trippin01]

I can understand liking the little Hyundai - they have made solid cars for some time and they scoot right along. Good economy - what, guessing about 30 or so?[/QUOTE]

I get a combined 25ish. on the highway, at 70-80 mph I get 25-28, but when I hit the construction speed zones of 45-55 mph I get 40-50 mpg, plus its a loaded Turbo, so it is warmer and more plush (heated leather seats) I didn't hardly get anything in my JT. Premium soft top, aux switches, Max Tow package and slush mats, thats literally it. No cold weather group with the rag top. It's my dirt road, trailer pulling truck for the Idaho Outback.

 

[Jeeptimus Prime]

It is human nature to make your complaints heard. Before Yelp or online reviews I recall a dealership sales manager say, "For every happy customer 1 or 2 friends may hear about that good experience. Every unhappy customer will tell everyone they know."

I also believe people think they are doing us a favor by telling us their tales of woe, some warranted, some trolling. Every forum has complainers, this is nothing new. Usually boils down to how someone complains. If they rant then it becomes cannon fodder but if it's an intelligent recap of their issues then it should get some traction. I just wish every member of a forum was legit. Even then I trust forums more than anything a salesmen will say.

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