The cost of remote start in MPG and dollars?

[ShadowsPapa]

I'm on the other side now, I don't get why it wouldn't lock the thing in park, just like remote start does. Then you couldn't leave to start with. I fully agree that while moving, you can't just disable it.

Hmmm, so you are thinking that if you have it started, then exit with the fob, it locks if it's in park (well, it would auto-park if not, already in park, would it not?)
Interesting.

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[SwampNut]

Google "how far will a running car go without the key fob" and see what pops up.

So the overwhelming consensus is that you can drive all you want until you turn it off. Some won't start again at all. The Mustang and some others give you a few seconds to restart it right away. "Key not detected - must restart" or something like that. Lots of stories of people driving away from a spouse holding the key. We've done that on purpose in the BMW, like she leaves me at UPS and goes to the bank and back, but without turning the engine off.

Hmmm, so you are thinking that if you have it started, then exit with the fob, it locks if it's in park (well, it would auto-park if not, already in park, would it not?)
Interesting.

Yeah, exactly! It should re-secure itself, like it did with remote start.

 

[jimbom]

If the truck is parked and running, what good reason would there be for it to allow someone to drive off when the fob isn't detected?

Check my post - death to other innocent people is one good reason.
LOCK THE DOORS!!!!
Even the friendly owners manual says at least 3 times on various pages "lock the doors when leaving the vehicle running".

Huh? Let's try this again. Just how can a parked car kill innocent people? Read my post, the only tool you need to take my running, LOCKED truck is a rock.

 

[SwampNut]

Just how can a parked car kill innocent people?

 

[jimbom]

So the overwhelming consensus is that you can drive all you want until you turn it off. Some won't start again at all. The Mustang and some others give you a few seconds to restart it right away.

In my test I shared earlier, the truck allowed me to restart after several seconds, but not if I opened the door(I believe that time-out is variable in the settings.)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Huh? Let's try this again. Just how can a parked car kill innocent people? Read my post, the only tool you need to take my running, LOCKED truck is a rock.

you said parked and running........... didn't say locked....

We were talking about a parked, running vehicle being TAKEN, driven away - someone gets in and drives it away. We were saying it would NOT die, it would run until shut off or out of gas. That's it.
I simply stated WHY they allow it to keep running. I stated why they don't shut it off after a given time.

Start vehicle, it's running and in park. Exit vehicle, take fob with you.
It will keep running and allow someone to get in and drive it away.
That's what I was saying.
No one said LOCKED, I never said LOCKED. You didn't say locked, you said "parked and running".

 

[SwampNut]

My thought is that if the key leaves the vehicle, and it's in park, it should stay locked in park. Door locks shouldn't matter. I can't (currently) see the danger in that. Of course, when we do that with the BMW, we'd be boned. Or well, just stop doing it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Bottom line -

If you get in, start your vehicle, then decide to run back into work, the store, your house, and take the fob with you - LOCK THE VEHICLE.

Taking the fob out of the vehicle will not prevent it from being taken. It doesn't self-lock.
If it's full of gas, they could drive for hours.
It will keep running until shut off.
If they leave the vehicle, it won't restart. If they don't leave, it allows restarting for a while (a time-out)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My thought is that if the key leaves the vehicle, and it's in park, it should stay locked in park.

YES. There ya go. If you unlock it, get in, start it, then exit the vehicle with the fob, it should disallow taking it out of park.
But - what about a stick?

 

[SwampNut]

But - what about a stick?

We don't need to accommodate the 7 crazy people who bought those. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

 

[jimbom]

YES. There ya go. If you unlock it, get in, start it, then exit the vehicle with the fob, it should disallow taking it out of park.
But - what about a stick?

OMG, we're going in circles. You need to go back and read the WHOLE thread.

 

[jimbom]

Bottom line -

If you get in, start your vehicle, then decide to run back into work, the store, your house, and take the fob with you - LOCK THE VEHICLE.

Taking the fob out of the vehicle will not prevent it from being taken. It doesn't self-lock.
If it's full of gas, they could drive for hours.
It will keep running until shut off.
If they leave the vehicle, it won't restart. If they don't leave, it allows restarting for a while (a time-out)

If you shout LOCK THE VEHICLE one more time ...
A rock unlocks the truck.
If the truck is running, nothing stops it from being driven off. If you had read earlier posts, you'd know I tested that on my 6-speed. Swamp had stated the same is true of an automatic. TRY TO KEEP UP HERE.

 

[jimbom]

We don't need to accommodate the 7 crazy people who bought those. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

We may be crazy, but apparantly Ford noted there's enough demand to compel them to offer the same on the Bronco.

Someone (you?) noted that another brand kills the engine if the brake is depressed (if fob is missing.) That would work for me.

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