What are the "ultrasonic intrusion sensors" on the wiring diagram?

[SwampNut]

So first off, I'm working from a JLU wiring diagram, which I believe to be the same as a JT. I have been unable to find a JT specific diagram. I'm trying to supplement the existing system with motion sensors, but this suggests that they already exist. I haven't done testing yet.

Anyone know what these are? There are four of them.

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[Alabama Mud Machine]

Maybe something to do with the near-perimeter detection sensors if you have the adaptive cruise control and collision detection system?

Glad my JTR wasn’t ordered with those options.

 

[SwampNut]

Those are two of the features that drove me to buy this Jeep. Absolutely love them, and they make road trips so much more relaxed. I'd still have my JK if the Gladiator didn't have these features. But no, they can't be part of that. They are inside, and the AAC uses the camera and RADAR mounted in the mirror box.

 

[SwampNut]

Maybe @JeepCares could answer this? Seems to be a secret, none of my Googling finds anything on those sensors.

 

[TheITGuy]

Or perhaps @AllMoparParts.com?

 

[Alabama Mud Machine]

Those are two of the features that drove me to buy this Jeep. Absolutely love them, and they make road trips so much more relaxed. I'd still have my JK if the Gladiator didn't have these features. But no, they can't be part of that. They are inside, and the AAC uses the camera and RADAR mounted in the mirror box.

To each, his own... I don’t like all the nanny-features. Then again, I’m a sports car/muscle car/high-performance guy, so I like to be the one in full-control of whatever I’m operating at all times. I’ve always referred to the nanny-systems as the (regardless of brand or model offering it) “I’m A Shitty Driver Package”.

 

[SwampNut]

We have a sports car for that end of things. Road trips are far more comfortable with less worry. AAC is not a nanny feature, it's a feature that makes driving less work, and safer, without any penalty at all.

Humans, including you, will never drive as safely as a computer.

 

[SwampNut]

I locked the doors with the windows open. Once the system was armed, I stuck my upper body in and waved my arms around, in every window. Nothing. So these either don't exist in mine, or don't do what their names suggest. I really hope @JeepCares will take a moment to tell us what's going on here.

My other alternative is to stick a standard DEI motion sensor in there. Normally you hook that up to an "alarm on" wire, but that doesn't seem to exist here. I might try a dual-coil latching relay using the lock/unlock wires or see if there are momentary wires to grab an alarm on/off signal from.

 

[Mr._Bill]

So first off, I'm working from a JLU wiring diagram, which I believe to be the same as a JT. I have been unable to find a JT specific diagram. I'm trying to supplement the existing system with motion sensors, but this suggests that they already exist. I haven't done testing yet.

Anyone know what these are? There are four of them.

I would guess they are the rear parking sensors that warn when you are too close to objects behind you when backing up.

 

[Rokon]

I would guess they are the rear parking sensors that warn when you are too close to objects behind you when backing up.

This is most likely. And/or
How about the blindspot sensors in the tail light housing?

 

[sass JT]

So OP??? Your asking about adding a motion sensor to your factory alarm??? If you say yes... then you are on the right track with the aftermarket.... but it isn’t going to work with your factory system and if it does it’s going to cost you $$$$$$$$$... IMO if you want a true alarm with motion sensing while your top is off... an aftermarket system will need to be installed with the correct modules.... again $$$$ but it is what it is.

 

[BigRed97]

I would guess they are the rear parking sensors that warn when you are too close to objects behind you when backing up.

These are clearly labeled as interior, not the rear park sensors.

"IP RT" - INSTRUMENT PANNEL RIGHT
"CONSOLE LT" - CONSOLE LEFT
"CONSOLE RT" - CONSOLE RIGHT

My assumption(and it is just that, I do not know for sure) is that these are only present with a certain level of options on the truck. OR they are JL only, not JT...which I kind of doubt

 

[Alabama Mud Machine]

We have a sports car for that end of things. Road trips are far more comfortable with less worry. AAC is not a nanny feature, it's a feature that makes driving less work, and safer, without any penalty at all.

Humans, including you, will never drive as safely as a computer.

Who do you think designed the computer? A computer is only as smart as the person who programmed it.

 

[SwampNut]

Who do you think designed the computer? A computer is only as smart as the person who programmed it.

It's not about "smart," it's about speed of reaction and the ability to use multiple types of sensors to detect something. The computer is faster than any human and unless you have RADAR in your head, it has more abilities. This is why computers always drive better than humans. The ACC is the ultimate combo; the human can override it, but it also adds its abilities to the mix. While making your drive much more relaxed because you can just fall into the flow of traffic for a hundred miles, no matter if you have no-cruise idiots speeding up and slowing down.

These are clearly labeled as interior, not the rear park sensors.

"IP RT" - INSTRUMENT PANNEL RIGHT
"CONSOLE LT" - CONSOLE LEFT
"CONSOLE RT" - CONSOLE RIGHT

My assumption(and it is just that, I do not know for sure) is that these are only present with a certain level of options on the truck. OR they are JL only, not JT...which I kind of doubt

Yup, exactly, they are clearly marked interior, and they are on a security system diagram. The other sensors are on other diagrams. The rear distance sensors are ultrasonic and clearly marked as rear distance. The side sensors are RADAR, and again, marked as such, on another diagram.

I built up a latching relay, which works, but NOT when connected to the Lt Grn/Dk Grn wire which is arming output from the wiring harness. It's funny, the car shuts down output on that wire when any load is detected. WTF. Even a tiny relay, or a test lamp. It does read voltage on a meter. So pretty much need to build a solid state latching relay to basically present near-zero load to the car. Sigh.

 

[JESmith]

These are probably for a future feature that may or may not ever be implemented. Car designers try to design systems that can be used on multiple vehicles. It is much easier to design and manufacture one security system and one wiring harness instead of 50 different ones.

If I were to hazard a guess... that twisted green pair is part of the Security CANBUS network. You are going to need a CANBUS enabled sensor and maybe even a programming flash to the Security Module to make it work.

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