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The decal is instructions on how to do the fuel Hokey Pokey.
You put your nozzle in...
You pull your nozzle out...
Please read the instructions...
If there's gas cans about....
 

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Each time someone comments on "Destroying the Carbon Canasta", it makes my knees come together, I'm working on it. It's a twelve step process, I'm almost to three, close, nearby, and I'm hopeful.
If you dribble any of that gas on the pavement, we're going to have to call hazmat on ya! So just keep shakin' that nozzle.
 

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Great news! I am following these instructions to the T. I dont pull out for a full 10 seconds and my avg mpg is now officially over 20mpg.

Formula For success.
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Do NOT ...repeat do NOT pull your nozzle out until it’s been in for the FULL 10 seconds.
That's what she said.......
 

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It takes a perfect storm sequence of events for a cell phone to ignite fuel vapors. Back when I was a service tech for gasoline companies, we had an urgent safety meeting about a monthly newsletter from PEI-Petroleum Equipment Institute. Two techs were working on a dispenser(still called a pump?), bottom panel removed and a lot of fuel vapors from a leak if I remember correctly-that was 20+ years ago. Absorbent pads did their job but cool temps concentrated the vapors. One tech answered a call from his wife. Blooey. The phone got the blame. Corrosion on the battery contacts caused a spark when the phone went from standby to transmit. That was the theory as not much suvived the fireball. I knew it was time to move on when a customer entering the C-Store lot flicked his cigarette out of the window and it rolled downhill towards the 3 open fill points on the in ground tanks. The tanker was there filling them. I ran from my service van towards the rolling butt and stomped it maybe 5 feet from the open fill hole. It is all fun and games until humans get involved. A coworker at the college incinerated his truck filling a plastic fuel can resting on a plastic liner in the bed. Seems NJ and others will not let you self serve for safety concerns.
 

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Somewhere in the manual, forgot the page, but somewhere it says to do this when fueling: use the control buttons on the steering wheel and enter Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A then Start. That should give you extra or unlimited lives.
 

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I fill containers in the back of my trucks all the time. Always have. 5 gallon cans get HEAVY.
I also know the trick, the key is STATIC so I make sure I am grounded, and I personally touch the can, truck, etc. and don't let the nozzle be the first thing to touch a fuel container.
I deal with static all the time in my wood shop with the vacuums and wood dust - you learn and get into habits of touching and grounding things. My steel shop vac has a cluster small chains that hangs from it and drags the floor. I've not been shocked by it since I hung that ground of chains on the vacuum.

Modern cell phones don't have battery contacts that can corrode. No more removable batteries (unless you have an old phone) Cases are quite well sealed to make them water resistant, even water proof. The old days of phones even possibly causing a "spark" are gone.
 

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We had static mats and wrist straps for electronics work on the bench and always connected the grounding cord to the aircraft before any other connection. This was hammerred home by the USAF. However, I think most people go through life oblivious to the simple dangers of the daily routine. We get complacent. A few simple steps like ShadowsPapa's can save your bacon. I saw a lot of gas techs omit checking the continuity/resistance from nozzle to diaspenser after a nozzle or hose change. The hose contains a steel braid layer. Is two way radio operation still banned in blasting areas? I did receive a nasty RF burn fron an ARC-105 HF coupler on the bench. Felt like a burning ember inside the finger bone for a couple of days. Now if I could get those energy bolts at my fingertips like the star wars emperor....
 

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Although I cannot cite any statistics, it seems that people using smartphones become instant dumbasses, which can be a lethal condition when doing ordinary things such as pumping gas, crossing the street, or zipping up trousers. Maybe static electricity isn’t the real issue.
 

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We had static mats and wrist straps for electronics work on the bench and always connected the grounding cord to the aircraft before any other connection. This was hammerred home by the USAF. However, I think most people go through life oblivious to the simple dangers of the daily routine. We get complacent. A few simple steps like ShadowsPapa's can save your bacon. I saw a lot of gas techs omit checking the continuity/resistance from nozzle to diaspenser after a nozzle or hose change. The hose contains a steel braid layer. Is two way radio operation still banned in blasting areas? I did receive a nasty RF burn fron an ARC-105 HF coupler on the bench. Felt like a burning ember inside the finger bone for a couple of days. Now if I could get those energy bolts at my fingertips like the star wars emperor....
I worked at Compressor Controls Corp for several years. I was in IT and one day the company VP and my boss had a chat and I was given the task of coming up with the PC interface for what was then their new Series IV turbo compressor control system. I had an electrician set me up with a ground bus bar that was wired to the building's steel water pipes. My bench had a long static mat, I had grounded chair mats, my computer rack was grounded, etc. I put together the computer interface for their controllers and tested what then were new touchscreen systems. Boy were those touchscreens back then crude. They worked but they were tricky.

The building had carpet so I also had a bottle of fabric softener mixed with water and sprayed that mix on my chair and the carpet in my area on a regular basis.
We had a weird series of events in certain areas - people would come in and turn on their computers, sit down and start working and back then 640K was the base memory anything above that was either extended or expanded and we used a Quarterdeck product to manage it. Some ran Quarterdeck's "multitasking" software (before Windows). The problem was, they'd sit and start working and realize that their memory above 640 wasn't accessible and/or the keyboard stopped working properly.
I figured out that the 286 systems used a portion of the keyboard controller chip (long since forgotten the exact name/number) was also being tagged to manage memory above 640K. They'd sit down, touch the keyboard and ZAP............ Once we moved up to the 486 and Pentium systems, those specific problems went away - still lost some keyboards now and then when people got in a hurry in the winter.

The static control in that company's small manufacturing area was excellent.

Although I cannot cite any statistics, it seems that people using smartphones become instant dumbasses, which can be a lethal condition when doing ordinary things such as pumping gas, crossing the street, or zipping up trousers. Maybe static electricity isn’t the real issue.
You think it's bad here - visit Korea. If you are standing chatting with a group of people and your phone rings, it's considered rude to not answer your phone. Subways, etc. - don't worry about people bothering you, they are all glued to their cell phones. Hair salons there - each station has a stand for your phone and charging cables or wireless charging. They are on their phones while having their hair done - men and women.
They have mastered walking down the sidewalk, phone in front of face, and not bumping into people or walking into things. People asked if while I was there if I was noticed as being "American" or non-Korean of it anyone stopped and stared (you don't see non-Koreans over there very often).
Are you kidding? I suspect no one even saw me - they were too busy with their phones.
 

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"While it may be “theoretically possible for a spark from a cell phone battery to ignite gas vapor,” the FCC concludes the potential threat is remote."

https://www.verizon.com/about/news/...ell-phone-at-the-gas-station-can-cause-a-fire

My earbuds have shocked me when I've put them into my ears before. Cell phones and their peripherals operate using electricity. The chance of ignition is definitely remote, but it's not zero.
The same applies to being murdered by your cat...
 

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The same applies to being murdered by your cat...
Just don't piss 'em off and you're fine.
I ignored one of mine last week -he jumped up on a shelf and started throwing things at me - literally.
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