Opus 15...

[cmb396]

Anyone here have experience with one?
We just sold our 5th wheel, while nice and roomy, it was a PITA, and there are many parks we can't go too that we like bc the spots aren't large enough.
The opus 15 is a bit extreme for our needs right now, as far as off road capability, but I like having the option. There are several places in WV I could put it to use to it's potential.
Curb weight is right at 5k (4960), tongue weight 410lbs. Guessing curb weight= dry weight?
Anyone think the gladiator will have trouble pulling one? I have a JTR, lifted, 513s, 39" KM3s (measure 37.25"), and magnusson SC.
GVWR on the 15 is 6600lbs. Does gvwr include the weight of the 60gal holding tanks, LP tanks, etc + gear?

Surprisingly, for the size of this thing, it checks all our boxes for a family of 4...apart from the price, but what the hell.
I've looked at about every squaredrop and teardrop camper out there, and can't pull the trigger on putting my kids in a tent, or rtt if I don't have to. I don't mind doing so when I'm in the tent next to them, which we do often, but my conscience will get the better of me making them tent it while we sleep tight inside! (and by conscience, I mean my wife!!)

Any thoughts or incite would be appreciated!!

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[kevman65]

Dry weight is bone stock and empty. Everything that came with it and nothing else.

GVWR is full water and LP tanks and all the gear it's rated to haul.

You will be overweight on your JT Rubi.

Your ride, you do you.

 

[cmb396]

How so? Isn't JTR tow capacity 7k with auto?

 

[kevman65]

How so? Isn't JTR tow capacity 7k with auto?

4500 pounds for a Rubicon with auto transmission.

 

[cmb396]

4500 pounds for a Rubicon with auto transmission.

Directly from Jeep...

 

[Gren71]

you would be in your weight range, but i think youll be unhappy with the performance. Especially considering your lift and extra large / heavy tires. Remember that tire wight detracts from your cargo capacity, and ive read that the wheel diameter increase is proportional to the loss of towing capacity. Ex: if your tires are %10 larger than you need to lower tour max tow weight by %10.

but you do already have 5.13s so im not sure how that changes things. Perhaps it offset the tires enough

My TT is around 5k lbs loaded and its pretty much the max I’ll go with. Just because not going to the max gives me wiggle room and the knowledge that I don’t have to weigh every thing and everyone to be sure im inside my limits.

if your in DE you’re welcome to come
Hook up to my TT and see how the weight feels.

 

[Labswine]

Yes, the Rubi is 7,000 lbs max towing but, because of your larger tires and any additional mods you've done adding weight, your towing capacity drops dramatically. Yes, the power train (especially since you've compensated for the larger tires with the 5.13s) can handle it but, you could potentially be out of the safe towing range. I'd weigh your Rubi first and compare to stock weight (factory listed specs) then subtract the difference between now and then to calculate safe towing capacity.

 

[cmb396]

you would be in your weight range, but i think youll be unhappy with the performance. Especially considering your lift and extra large / heavy tires. Remember that tire wight detracts from your cargo capacity, and ive read that the wheel diameter increase is proportional to the loss of towing capacity. Ex: if your tires are %10 larger than you need to lower tour max tow weight by %10.

but you do already have 5.13s so im not sure how that changes things. Perhaps it offset the tires enough

My TT is around 5k lbs loaded and its pretty much the max I’ll go with. Just because not going to the max gives me wiggle room and the knowledge that I don’t have to weigh every thing and everyone to be sure im inside my limits.

if your in DE you’re welcome to come
Hook up to my TT and see how the weight feels.

Yep, that's what I'm concerned about. Def pushing the envelope for tow capacity! The Magnuson and 513s should help with that.
Guess what I need to do, is go find something that weighs around 6k lbs and pull it around to see how it does?!

 

[Gren71]

Yep, that's what I'm concerned about. Def pushing the envelope for tow capacity! The Magnuson and 513s should help with that.
Guess what I need to do, is go find something that weighs around 6k lbs and pull it around to see how it does?!

Couldn’t hurt to at least get a feel for how your suspension handles it! The downside to spring lifts is they put you in a whole different ballpark as far as towing. The manufacturer can say they’ll do one thing, but i trust the aftermarket less than OEM when it comes to capability lol i hope your suspension lends itself to towing, I’ve really found a passion for the TT trips

 

[cmb396]

Couldn’t hurt to at least get a feel for how your suspension handles it! The downside to spring lifts is they put you in a whole different ballpark as far as towing. The manufacturer can say they’ll do one thing, but i trust the aftermarket less than OEM when it comes to capability lol i hope your suspension lends itself to towing, I’ve really found a passion for the TT trips

Great point!
Anyone know the spring rates for oem JTR springs vs Mopar 2" lift spring rates? lol
I can't find spring rate for factory coils, let alone, mopar 2" coils...

 

[kevman65]

First, no JEEP doesn't say a Rubicon can handle a 7000 pound trailer. Nice try at discounting the entire section discussing weight and towing. Not to mention the disclaimer right below the number you're trying to use.

I guarantee you, your wife, your kids, and all your camping gear in the bed are not 150 pounds or less. You've already listed your mods, that makes it lower you can tow, not higher because you have more HP which doesn't mean squat in the equation. It's cooling and braking.

Now, the RIGHT way to see what you can tow. Load up EVERYTHING you haul camping in the bed of the truck. Fill the fuel tank. Load up yourself, the wife, and the kids and go weigh the truck in that condition only. Now take 10% of trailer weight (tongue weight) and add that to what the truck weighs. Now open the driver door and look at the magic number there and tell everyone honestly how much you're over that number.

 

[Gren71]

First, no JEEP doesn't say a Rubicon can handle a 7000 pound trailer. Nice try at discounting the entire section discussing weight and towing. Not to mention the disclaimer right below the number you're trying to use.I guarantee you, your wife, your kids, and all your camping gear in the bed are not 150 pounds or less. You've already listed your mods, that makes it lower you can tow, not higher because you have more HP which doesn't mean squat in the equation. It's cooling and braking.

Now, the RIGHT way to see what you can tow. Load up EVERYTHING you haul camping in the bed of the truck. Fill the fuel tank. Load up yourself, the wife, and the kids and go weigh the truck in that condition only. Now take 10% of trailer weight (tongue weight) and add that to what the truck weighs. Now open the driver door and look at the magic number there and tell everyone honestly how much you're over that number.

Nicer ways to get your point across, but you are right. That tongue weight isnt bad on the TT he’s looking at. But all the mods make it a hard game to play finding the right TT. That’s actually why i went backwards to more stock sized tires an kept the weight if bumpers and such off.

side note: are any of us 150lbs lol im 240 all day…

 

[cmb396]

First, no JEEP doesn't say a Rubicon can handle a 7000 pound trailer. Nice try at discounting the entire section discussing weight and towing. Not to mention the disclaimer right below the number you're trying to use.

I guarantee you, your wife, your kids, and all your camping gear in the bed are not 150 pounds or less. You've already listed your mods, that makes it lower you can tow, not higher because you have more HP which doesn't mean squat in the equation. It's cooling and braking.

Now, the RIGHT way to see what you can tow. Load up EVERYTHING you haul camping in the bed of the truck. Fill the fuel tank. Load up yourself, the wife, and the kids and go weigh the truck in that condition only. Now take 10% of trailer weight (tongue weight) and add that to what the truck weighs. Now open the driver door and look at the magic number there and tell everyone honestly how much you're over that number.

Dude, who pissed in your cereal today?! Appreciate your incite, but your delivery is quite shrewd, putting politely. But YOU do you tho, right?

 

[dcmdon]

Lets assume that your truck is rated to tow 7000 lbs.

Do you really think is going to perform well off road in an environment that is too difficult for a regular trailer.

IMHO - that trailer has a lot of stuff that most people wouldn't want or use. And that stuff makes it very heavy for its size.

Sure rugged is good. But if you could get a regular trailer of similar size that weighs 1500 lbs less, it would do much better with the gladiator.

Frankly if you think you want to tow 6000 lbs off road over stuff so rugged that you need a special off road trailer, then you bought the wrong truck.

 

[Gren71]

Lets assume that your truck is rated to tow 7000 lbs.

Do you really think is going to perform well off road in an environment that is too difficult for a regular trailer.

IMHO - that trailer has a lot of stuff that most people wouldn't want or use. And that stuff makes it very heavy for its size.

Sure rugged is good. But if you could get a regular trailer of similar size that weighs 1500 lbs less, it would do much better with the gladiator.

Frankly if you think you want to tow 6000 lbs off road over stuff so rugged that you need a special off road trailer, then you bought the wrong truck.

Seems like a really good point. Maybe reevaluate youre intended use. That TT is SUPER cool looking, but may be over kill for %90 of your intended trips.

just as example. My TT had the “off roa” options as part of the package I got to camp year round. I know full well thats not how i intend to use it…not going boondocking or off roading with it. But I got the under belly insulation I wanted.

So maybe really evaluate how you’re going to use it and that may guide you into in a different direction.

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