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page 350 has the definition of payload, however I cannot find the payload capacities anywhere in this manual... anyone else seen it?

any update on Gator colour?

I forgot where I found that photo, but it was open in an old time of mine /forum/attachments/jtgator8-jpg.11362/

where did this come from? is that a real base gator (steel wheels) or is this a photoshop?

@Boy Toy's Toy did you get factory bed liner?

once my power train warranty is up I will probably regrear to 5.13, get a real TorSen diff and go to 35" tires and yes i'm getting the manual

Yeah that's nuts @_@ manually unlocking doors with that brick

Has anybody seen the 24B//23B sku's key fob? I wondering what the base sport gladiator has for a fob, and if it has a key ignition or push bush button start? haven't found a picture searching

@JAY what is, "W/DEM" on page 3 for cold weather group?

do you think this could be installed after an aftermarket line-x bed liner instilation?

is this because they have a different wiring system//harness or do they just not allow it so you get the sport s?

@Jake, okay okay - great info. Thank you very much

if the factory liner ever isn't sufficient, get scratched or damaged... can't it just be resprayed/upgraded?

@BTtheMallCrawler my local dealer can order 23B in some other colours, but not Gator yet. I'm hoping he lets me know soon

@BTtheMallCrawler apparently 16/Sept = Job1, they start making them

WOW, i've been trying to order 23B all month at my dealer, must be the Gator colour I want they cannot do. @Moonridge Do you know if the cold weather package (heated seats and steering wheel) can be put on 23B?

Would anybody else get Jeep's TracLok clutch lsd (for the better tires and better diff durring the wrarranty) or save the $595 for a regear//real torsen lsd? I am going to be running the sock tires until after a regear.

when you say gear set ^ I need to regear both the front and rear diff plus transfser case or? unless i'm looking at: wrong... isn't the sport manual the highest payload? 1600?

doesn't max tow get you better breaks too? I want to regear to 4.88 or 5.13 and make a torque monster and so the 2OD gears (5th and 6th which are a .8 and .7) are usable. I want the manual. -------------------------------------------------- I think, don't remember, someone was tellig me the...

does the max tow hurt payload? I heard the base sport and sport s (even the manuals) get 1600lbs of payload and the overland and rubicon only get 1100lbs of payload.