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I like to tinker with the nicer things in life, haha. WIthin the first few days of ownership I'll make changes for sure, what I'm mostly talking about is the big things I would do to a Willys but not a Mojave, like gearing changes, suspension/lifts, etc. I might do a small lift on the mojave one...

I’m sure I’ll feel this way when I finally pull the trigger and get a chance to enjoy it. Until then it’s a battle.

That's fair. I'd never upgrade the Willy wheels, but I'm certainly getting different ones on the Mojave when the rubber wears out.

Yeah this is my exact perspective. I think it would be a good bit less than 6k difference after you account for parts plus labor, although I'd do most of it myself. Wheels/tires I have picked out alone are 4k, for example. I have expensive tastes. But that's part of the psychology for me on the...

It's more about me "overbuying" instead of saving money on stuff I would never benefit from. I think in my head the Mojave is 'purpose built' and since I don't have desert around here, it seems I'll never accomplish it's "purpose" From what I've seen it appears it does pretty fine offroading...

Lose too much weight on the X for me. They’re pretty though. And yeah those seem much more pressing if you’re already in the community.

This is a regular Mojave for comparison in case someone reads through this later.

Yeah, but that’s more investment in the Willy’s that I get standard on the Mojave. I’m trying to rationalize the Willy’s over the Mojave, mostly. Make that 12k, which is really 5-6k, wider to make the Willy’s make more sense. Ultimately I think I’ll end up Mojave though.

yeah. That would shrink the lead for the mojave more too for me.

no, standard fenders on Willy’s.

Thanks for your insight. If there was a Rubicon available nearby without the tech package I'd probably go that route, honestly, but I do like the aesthetics and features of the Mojave more, so that seems to be the route I'm intended to take. Either way, I get Hydro Blue. Do they show scratches...

I feel this in several different ways.

Seems like that link isn't working for me, maybe this'll work.

Right. Here's the ones I'm looking at. The main Mojave I'm eyeballing is the Hydro Blue Pearl one, but the Anvil one is pretty attractive too. I like the color choices the most (I love blue), but the blind side sounds appealing since my last vehicle had it.

I agree, hence the confusion on the decision. This is the last vehicle I want to buy for 15 years so on one hand the Mojave sounds like a better bet. On the other I don’t know how good the new Bilstein shocks on the lift kit are, and if that’ll end up being worse or better.

If Willys had the 4.10 and/or option for wider axles it would be much more in favor of the Willy’s. It has neither of those though.

I’ve seen a lot from both in my searching. It almost seem 60/40 Mexico/usa

Both are 2024.

I am financially secure but loathe debt outside my home loans. But good points here, and the reminder that time is indeed money. Thank you for your insight!

the dealership (I like them, I’m locked in) has a rubicon but it’s got so many things unnecessarily tacked on to it I don’t care to spend the money on it. Technology package, leather seats (I don’t like them), tires/rims I don’t like. Maybe I can find one to dealer trade with, but even then the...