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I keep trying to convince myself black is fine...but I really like the Sting-Grey

Yep. A different dealer e-mailed me this morning and confirmed still not available to order.

Just wanted to make sure you all saw this one. The Sting-Grey looks great with the black. I'm going with the Brown on the Rubicon because I hate the red stitching and the red dash. Hope it looks this good. Edit: He also says this is a common color between the wrangler and the truck. I didn't...

This would be the dealer I would want to go to. When I reached out they said MSRP and no fees. Craig in NOVA e-mailed me back with a 5% under invoice quote. I can just make the Gladiator so much cooler with the savings. I doubt Ourisman will match Koons, but I will find out soon.

I'm being very general, but 5% below invoice is a little over 10% off MSRP. There is an excel spreadsheet someone posted here.

Yeah, he just got back to me. I don't want to finance through a dealer and some below invoice are requiring that. Holding out for the Sting-grey.

Got an e-mail from my dealer about 30 minutes ago. No indication that ordering is allowed yet. He put me on his waiting list.

Yeah, dealer just got back to me and said I can't get the steel front bumper until the LEs are done. I guess I'll have to do that after market.

There is a dealer within a few miles, but I'm not sure they'll let me test drive it to my house.

I don't get the joke. I guess the joke is on me.

So, I'm aware that Chrysler is saying the Rubicon is 218 inches long. I really need that to be correct and I was just wondering if any of you with a steel front bumper have actually measured the length. It's actually not quite as wide as my Highlander, so no worries about the width in my garage...

Did you have to finance through Koons?

Anyone had any good experiences with any dealers in or near Maryland? I guess I'm looking to order below invoice somewhere in the area and then maybe have a good relationship with the dealer for add ons later.

Wait, so the 5-7% below invoice stuff discussed is no longer working with Travis?

That would make this all much easier for me and I'd probably add a few things to the Jeep if I could get 10% off MSRP. I sent a message to Travis at Tri-City since everyone keeps talking about him in the forums. Hopefully he can work that out for me. The dealers in my area aren't discounting...

I'm a new lurker here, but I'm confused about this below invoice thing. Does that mean below MSRP? The dealers here in MD are saying they'll do it at MSRP and waive the processing fee.