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Dang I can’t afford to lose anymore of those reasons- future full size dropout here, I hope...

Lunch- funny guy! Welcome to the world of pharmacy... I would say a foot or so is possible, if heavy wet snow could be quite a bit of weight- Id guess in excess of 100lbs.

I think its a bit of an admission that the JT was intentionally overpriced to begin with. I mean think about it- the truck of the year shouldnt need any discounts... I agree to discount a set of options that alot of people have likely already payed full price for in the same model year is kinda...

Looks awesome! Any regrets on not just starting with a Rubicon? Currently having the max tow vs Rubicon debate- particularly due to the current 2k rebate on the max tow. I’m just afraid I will end up back to Rubicon price after tires, lift etc... but still lack the lockers, sway disconnect...

Same for Rubicon... which is likely the trim that earned the truck of the year title.

Does anyone know of any official snow/ ice etc... load rating for the premium soft top? Trying to finalize my options list to place an order if nothing shows up on the lots in the next month or so. I live I upstate NY where long, cold, snowy winters are common. At home the JT will be garaged so...

So I test drove a Rebel today...partly for fun, partly to make sure I wasn't missing anything before I totally decide on the JT. It was great, had the black appearance package, rebel 12, level 2 equipment group, panoramic roof etc... basically fully loaded. Super comfortable, seat better than...

Might be an unpopular one but in my opinion the models other than the Rubicon really dont show very well on the lots, especially compared to other $40k vehicles (Ram Bighorns etc...). For me I really think the biggest difference is the fenders. The lower non-rubi fenders just seem to make the JT...

I do remember that 100k figure-I wonder if they meant 100k for model year 2020- which will likely be more like 18months, or per calendar year? Doesnt seem like theres even a chance if they are talking calendar year, or even model year beyond 2020 for that matter unless something major changes...

I think Msrp is the big issue, but I think that defining value is the reason msrp is the problem. Traditional truck buyers equate value as the hp/torque/towing etc per $. That is where with those buyers struggle with the Gladiator- for less money you can get more truck. The same goes for off...

I dont think they planned to match the Tacoma either- but that number for Tacoma was within about 1000 of the december 2018 number. So the question is did they plan on NOT taking any buyers from the Tacoma market?

To add a bit more data- Toyota sold over 20,000 tacomas in december alone...

So 4th quarter 2019 sales figures were just published this morning. Jeep sold 16,663 Gladiators in q4, bringing the total to 40,047 for 2019. Wondering if most think that is successful or not? Here are my (mostly uneducated) thoughts: I expected higher q4 numbers for a few reasons. Color...

Wondering if anyone has tried mounting a bed rack to the upper decker yet? And is the deck portion substantial enough to mount rails/ tracks for removable load bars/ racks- like many do on the diamondback covers? This thing could be a diamondback killer if those things are possible- especially...

Damn... Safety and weight considerations aside- if that mpg is accurate it is remarkable. Ive done alot of towing at similar weight with full size and hd gasser trucks and never seen more than about 12-13mpg tops on highway trips. My current F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost and 10spd doesnt get 15mpg...

The aux switches should just be standard as cheap as they are. I installed the oem ones in my wife’s JL and it was a pain! Dual tops is a common option here on the JL- when we bought my wife’s it was almost hard to find one optioned very well without dual tops. We originally bought color matched...

Exactly. If they would just standardize the trims a bit, and simplify some of the options I bet production costs would be lower and hopefully msrp as well. Imagine how complex the production scheduling has to be- the 3 different radios and audio groups alone is ridiculous! It really seems like...

Larger diameter tires essentially change gear ratio, which does change towing capability. Look at any truck mfgs max towing configurations- besides heavier rear springs the main change is typically gear ratio. I do see the payload number making a difference in capacity- I tow alot and fully...