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  1. Interesting fleet of JT test mules in Colorado mountains 6-28-21 PIX ATTACHED

    Spotted these four JTs climbing the road to the Johnson tunnel, including a Rubicon pulling a cargo trailer. The tunnel is at the top of a very steep climb, ending up at over 11,000 feet. How do I know they were testing? The Michigan manufacturer plate for starters, then the writing on the...
  2. Why not buy a full size truck for the same price?

    OP here. Just thought I would update everyone - first I am amazed that this thread going back to December 2018 is still alive with 26,000 views. But I did end up with two vehicles so all is well - bought a '20 Sahara 2.0lT with the Sky One and love that engine and that top. That was last fall...
  3. Now that we have pricing, are you still onboard?

    1% below invoice isnt enough. In a year or probably less they will be dealing as I predict sales will be anemic.
  4. Now that we have pricing, are you still onboard?

    I am out - local dealers charging MSRP for now
  5. 2020 Gladiator Build & Price Site Updated With Pricing. Post Your Build!

    Been saying this all along, they have it priced same as a full size truck. Only true Jeep nuts who want the off road capability and removeable top and doors will buy, no question. Which I think has been their strategy all along too. One problem is the full size trucks come standard with many...
  6. Mark Allen shows off plywood at media show ;)

    i have a relative in Wisco - Ben Steffen, thought you might be him. Sorry!
  7. Mark Allen shows off plywood at media show ;)

    Good job Ben! - from Rick in Colorado!
  8. Second thoughts

    Not happening in Colorado I am afraid!
  9. Second thoughts

    If rumors are true that this will come in at $3000 - $3500 over the cost of a JL I am out. Have to use that pickup bed an awful lot to make it worth that much more. I'll be looking at a JL instead. To pay the same for the Gladiator as a full size truck just to be able to take the doors and...
  10. Possible bad news

    "Pricing will be $3000 to $3500 over similarly equipped JL" Ooooops. Just went out of my price range if true.
  11. Towing Capacity - Lets get serious here...

    Yup I agree, me thinks the 7650 is going to turn out to be maybe true on paper only and will not be the case in the real world (at all).
  12. Towing Capacity - Lets get serious here...

    Simple math: Max tow rating for Rubi is 7,000 lbs VTWR (vertical towing weight rating should be no more than 20% of truck's max tow rating) = 1750.
  13. Breaking news...new Jeep Gladiator Commercial...

    Yeah, that'll get the juices flowing! Great idea Jeep!
  14. Towing Capacity - Lets get serious here...

    The specs came off the features and spec sheet Jay posted way back. And yes, I too worry about redlining that poor engine!
  15. "Weight Distribution" on jeep.com

    That is odd. Weight distribution is a type of hitch, needed when towing heavier trailers. Its a must for towing anything of decent size. Maybe its a future option from the factory?
  16. Why not buy a full size truck for the same price?

    Yeah I think number 6 sums it up. Cost be damned.
  17. Why not buy a full size truck for the same price?

    Guess my conclusion is that the mid-size Gladiator is going to be WAY over priced compared to its competition - and agree the "Jeep Thing" is why...
  18. Why not buy a full size truck for the same price?

    Thanks for the calculator - helpful!
  19. Why not buy a full size truck for the same price?

    Hadn't thought about the length. SO it won't be that much easier to park after all seems like. Your mileage is outstanding, any experience towing?


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