2025 Mojave X

[ShadowsPapa]

AND, you do NOT get full time 4WD on the 25's.

You do on the X versions.

Mojave X and Rubicon X both come standard with the full time transfer case.

ALL X versions come with it.

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[Redfour5]

You do on the X versions.

Mojave X and Rubicon X both come standard with the full time transfer case.

ALL X versions come with it.

If I was buying, I'd sure pull up the monroney for it. I've checked here lately and am NOT seeing it on recent ones.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If I was buying, I'd sure pull up the monroney for it. I've checked here lately and am NOT seeing it on recent ones.

That's been hashed to death elsewhere.
It's not on the window sticker and hasn't been for a long time.
It's part of the X package. It's on the build sheet, it's on every X out there.
I did months of digging and found out - the window sticker leaves it off, but it is there.
It's also shown in the Jeep pamphlets as coming with the X package.
I own a 2025, I have searched the whole country - to make sure I was going to get it with my 2025. It's on every Rubicon or Mojave X out there. I have photos from over a dozen dealerships showing it in every 2025 X on the lots.
People rely on that window sticker for every detail - the build sheet is the only tell, or actually looking at them.

That picture above is my own recently obtained, built in March this year, Mojave X.

I could post many many more from lots around the country as I was concerned.
Check out the buyers guide. Ignore the window sticker.

Rubicon X package -

Mojave X package -

 

[Redfour5]

That's been hashed to death elsewhere. It's NOT on the window sticker. Ignore that. It's part of the X package. It's on the build sheet, it's on every X out there.
I did months of digging and found out - the window sticker leaves it off, but it is there.
It's also in the Jeep pamphlets as coming with the X package.
I own a 2025, I have searched the whole country - to make sure I was going to get it with my 2025. It's on every Rubicon or Mojave X out there. I have photos from over a dozen dealerships showing it in every 2025 X on the lots.
People rely on that window sticker for every detail - the build sheet is the only tell, or actually looking at them.
That picture is mine. I could post many many more from lots around the country as I was concerned.
Check out the buyers guide. Ignore the window sticker.

Rubicon X package -

Mojave X package -

They used to put it on the Monroney. That's stupid to take it off when it's a selling point... https://www.jeep.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6RJTEG0SL515620

Interesting... The "build sheet" website says it is NOT supporting the (2025) VIN for the one I grabbed. Two I grabbed. BUT, it does support a 2024 VIN number and shows everything... https://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=1C6JJTEG3RL111444

Very odd... I had one person who tried to buy and I mentioned no full time AWD on 25's as I was shopping and looking at both 24's and 25's by monroney and he CHECKED with the dealership who checked and confirmed no full time "Selec Trac" full time 4WD and said he was going to cancel his order as that was one of his required boxes...

AND, they do state the "command trac" PART TIME 4WD in the "standard" equipment for like a Mojave. But, I did find a couple of ones "2025's" on Cargurus that have pics of the shifter and they DO have auto 4wd.

Why do they do this? I used to scour monroney's for the full time 4WD, now what's the point.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

They used to put it on the Monroney. That's stupid to take it off when it's a selling point... https://www.jeep.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6RJTEG0SL515620

Interesting... The "build sheet" website says it is NOT supporting the (2025) VIN for the one I grabbed. Two I grabbed. BUT, it does support a 2024 VIN number and shows everything... https://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=1C6JJTEG3RL111444

Very odd... I had one person who tried to buy and I mentioned no full time AWD on 25's as I was shopping and looking at both 24's and 25's by monroney and he CHECKED with the dealership who checked and confirmed no full time "Selec Trac" full time 4WD and said he was going to cancel his order as that was one of his required boxes...

AND, they do state the "command trac" PART TIME 4WD in the "standard" equipment for like a Mojave. But, I did find a couple of ones "2025's" on Cargurus that have pics of the shifter and they DO have auto 4wd.

Why do they do this? I used to scour monroney's for the full time 4WD, now what's the point.

I have my build sheet, the dealer was the only one who could access it. The site doesn't work with them as you found out.

someone at FCA fell asleep at the keyboard.

There's a pretty long discussion of it in another thread or two - or maybe back 20 pages in this one!

The build sheets also look VERY different than they used to.... this is a snippet from mine -

 

[Mr Miami]

I still find it VERY odd that there is no mention of 4x4 type when you do the online build at Jeep dot com. It used to be a selling point, or at least you knew what you were getting. Now you have to really search "somewhere" to find out what you are buying.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I still find it VERY odd that there is no mention of 4x4 type when you do the online build at Jeep dot com. It used to be a selling point, or at least you knew what you were getting. Now you have to really search "somewhere" to find out what you are buying.

Even my sales guy - who pays to go to training every few months, was totally baffled, unsure, unable to find it until later.
The buyer's guide brochure spells it out - but many dealerships don't mess with paper stuff any more. (I tried to post it but the forum says the file is too large)

I traded my 2020 for a 2022 - at least in PART - because I wanted that SelecTrac.
I saw it in the 2024 Mojave X I looked at a year ago March, and "assumed"..
The sales guy tried to find info - came up empty. And he's one that's been in the business almost 25 years - I figure if he can't find it, wow.

I have the ORDER GUIDE from September 2024 for the 2025 model year - and it's not even in that as part of any package! So if you went by the order guide, you'd also be confused, it's not anywhere, not as an option, not in the long list of stuff that's part of the X package. I dug and searched every way possible - order codes and more. It's just not listed.

So I guess, in short - I sure get the confusion out there and why people are saying "it's not there".

It really is - but unless you go look at one, or order one and look when it arrives, you'd not know.

 

[Mr Miami]

Maybe its a supply issue, or lack thereof. As Stellantis was doing with the transmissions, perhaps they just supply what they have the fastest access to in order to get the sale and cash ASAP. By not listing the 4x4 type, they can just put in the first available and to hell with the rest.

I remember back in the day they had several Quadra-Tracs available at the same time, each with its own features, and you could choose the one you wanted. Now, I guess its a crap shoot on whether you even get a full-time system. How things have changed.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Maybe its a supply issue, or lack thereof. As Stellantis was doing with the transmissions, perhaps they just supply what they have the fastest access to in order to get the sale and cash ASAP. By not listing the 4x4 type, they can just put in the first available and to hell with the rest.

I remember back in the day they had several Quadra-Tracs available at the same time, each with its own features, and you could choose the one you wanted. Now, I guess its a crap shoot on whether you even get a full-time system. How things have changed.

But............ they actually do list it............so I'm not sure how they would get away with not including it?? Ideas - Since they advertise it in the X package?

 

[Redfour5]

But............ they actually do list it............so I'm not sure how they would get away with not including it?? Ideas - Since they advertise it in the X package?

Two places it is shown. ONE, on the "build sheet" you noted that NOW only a dealer can get and that is on one already built essentially so if you got an ignorant saleman even sales manager, they likely won't find it. The other place is on one sitting on a dealer lot and you can LOOK inside at the shifter. AND, when last year they listed it on the monroney and the build sheet you could access online and go look in the front and see it. NOT good Jeep. I thought you were actually TRYING to sell them.

 

[Freems]

A Mojave X in the basic form has a sticker price about the same as a 2022 Overland, loaded, had. The Mojave X has the power seats, front and rear steel bumpers, and other things included.
So in a sense, the Mojave X is no more expensive than a 2022 Overland was. Take away for the costs of the power seats and the steel bumpers, it would actually be cheaper.
If you take my 2022 and add front and rear steel bumpers alone, you have gone a bit over the cost of a Mojave X.

The SelecTrac isn't listed - but I'd still love for someone to explain my photos - so far, no one has or can. They get ignored, and yet - there they are. About a dozen different Mojave X, 2025 models, all show the shift lever and the cluster display with 4H auto.
So either they are including a shifter with a position that it simply doesn't have, and a cluster display with an indication that doesn't work because it doesn't exist - or, there's a good reason that the 2025 VINs don't work with the build sheet web site.

Either way, a 2025 Mojave X is not going to cost any more than my 2022 did, but it will come with things my 2022 did not come with.

We’re the kids in Toledo dosing off on shift and just installed the wrong knob? and left the info dash software load alone?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

We’re the kids in Toledo dosing off on shift and just installed the wrong knob? and left the info dash software load alone?

Yeah, uh, not possible.
These absolutely get the auto/full time t-case.

They are referred to in literature as 4 position or 5 position. The SelecTrac is 5 position.

 

[Mr Miami]

Looking back, I didn't realize the full-time 4x4 system was such a desirable feature. When I bought mine back in January (2025), there were several X's still around that I could have had for about 4.5k more than my standard Rubicon. Mine was loaded with most of the X stuff (less the leather power seats and the full-time 4x4) and listed for 66k MSRP and the X that I looked at was 68k MSRP. I paid about 42k for mine but could have had the X at another dealer for 46.5k or thereabouts.

In retrospect, I guess the X was the better choice, at least what I am hearing here. But my thought was there was just more to go wrong with the power seats and the full-time 4x4. The fabric seats are fine with me since I have the same or similar seats in my 2016 Wrangler and they still look relatively new. As for the full-time 4x4, the chance of it seeing snow or ice is pretty slim in the Florida Keys or Everglades areas, lol. However, with the savings, I have the Apex 12000 winch installed and am still several thousand below the X.

I guess to each his own.

 

[Redfour5]

Looking back, I didn't realize the full-time 4x4 system was such a desirable feature. When I bought mine back in January (2025), there were several X's still around that I could have had for about 4.5k more than my standard Rubicon. Mine was loaded with most of the X stuff (less the leather power seats and the full-time 4x4) and listed for 66k MSRP and the X that I looked at was 68k MSRP. I paid about 42k for mine but could have had the X at another dealer for 46.5k or thereabouts.

In retrospect, I guess the X was the better choice, at least what I am hearing here. But my thought was there was just more to go wrong with the power seats and the full-time 4x4. The fabric seats are fine with me since I have the same or similar seats in my 2016 Wrangler and they still look relatively new. As for the full-time 4x4, the chance of it seeing snow or ice is pretty slim in the Florida Keys or Everglades areas, lol. However, with the savings, I have the Apex 12000 winch installed and am still several thousand below the X.

I guess to each his own.

YOU are one of the extremely few (the others are in the far south or southern CA) where I would say the full time 4WD is NOT needed. LIving in MT like I do or anywhere where roads get slick, it is a very nice thing to have. LImited slip should be mandatory at the very least... I have both on a Freedom Edition.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Looking back, I didn't realize the full-time 4x4 system was such a desirable feature. When I bought mine back in January (2025), there were several X's still around that I could have had for about 4.5k more than my standard Rubicon. Mine was loaded with most of the X stuff (less the leather power seats and the full-time 4x4) and listed for 66k MSRP and the X that I looked at was 68k MSRP. I paid about 42k for mine but could have had the X at another dealer for 46.5k or thereabouts.

In retrospect, I guess the X was the better choice, at least what I am hearing here. But my thought was there was just more to go wrong with the power seats and the full-time 4x4. The fabric seats are fine with me since I have the same or similar seats in my 2016 Wrangler and they still look relatively new. As for the full-time 4x4, the chance of it seeing snow or ice is pretty slim in the Florida Keys or Everglades areas, lol. However, with the savings, I have the Apex 12000 winch installed and am still several thousand below the X.

I guess to each his own.

Seats are a very personal preference, and maybe based on where you live, do you have dogs and so on. I've had both types.
You won't likely ever care about the transfer case thing. Nice to have choices. Sounds like a great choice for you.

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