How long did it take for you to find these?

[The White Rabbit]

I noticed it before the test drive. I drive a school bus though and they all are a little different, some with controls on the steering wheel……………….I always familiarize myself with everything, set mirrors, look at controls before I put anything in drive.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Yes, if you move the wheel at all, autopilot is off instantly. If you push throttle you get throttle just like adaptive, and if you brake it drops all of them. If you turn the wheel it will still leave intelligent cruise on (which is smarter than the adaptive in the Jeep). So you have multiple ways to take over instantly.

You can't compare the Jeep and Tesla. The moron who would have clipped you probably would be noticed by the Tesla, but not the Jeep. My brother was driving when someone did that, and he said the car's reaction was violent but accurate. Scared the shit out of him, but saved a collision. A friend went to hit the brakes in his because of a collision right in front of him, but the car beat him to it. Oh, the Tesla bounces RADAR under the car in front to see the next car up. I've got about 8k miles on both systems, and the Jeep is a game of Pong while the Tesla is today's VR. It can also see blind spots where you can't. And it sees 360 at all times, if you're a standard-issue human, you don't, I certainly don't.

There are two redundant sets of steering controls and sensors.

Great, that explains a whole lot. Thanks.

Interesting - I'm already reacting or have myself ready and my wife is asking what I'm doing and I have to explain that two cars up there's a couple of fools playing like smokey and the bandit or something - and sure enough, suddenly the car ahead of me gets into trouble but I was looking way out ahead and saw it coming before it actually happened. I never rely on the vehicle directly in front of me. I've avoided accidents others crapped their pants over because they weren't looking far enough ahead, or even behind them. Good to know Tesla's designers realize it's not what's right next to you - it's the other stuff.

As far as seeing or what's out there - try living with my wiring - I can't possibly shut stuff off that's around me. It means trouble at times because of almost sensory overload....... but it means I've got info to use most miss because I can't filter out things.
I recall a meeting they had at work on time - the CFO thought it would be fun for some team building and self-assessment. I can't recall the exact question posed but the woman putting it on was one of those phd types and people were to have their hand up for whatever it was, then she kept filtering the question down, hands dropped each time. I was the last person with a hand up and she literally said "my god, it must be busy, overwhelming up there" (meaning in my head). I told her she'd never survive it - 100 radios going all at once, each on a different station, a mix of talk and music of all types all while watching 50 videos and feeling every little fold in any fabric you are wearing or sitting on. If there's a wrinkle in the sheet or pillow case, I can't sleep.
Yeah, but there's a down-side, of course......... I now know why my mother was how she was, if drove her nuts, almost literally.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I noticed it before the test drive. I drive a school bus though and they all are a little different, some with controls on the steering wheel……………….I always familiarize myself with everything, set mirrors, look at controls before I put anything in drive.

Find it before you need it........ too many hop in and then spend half their drive adjusting mirrors, seats, steering wheel and so on and then when it starts raining take attention off the road trying to find the wiper switch.

 

[The White Rabbit]

Find it before you need it........ too many hop in and then spend half their drive adjusting mirrors, seats, steering wheel and so on and then when it starts raining take attention off the road trying to find the wiper switch.

If you’re looking for it when you need it you’re already too late.

 

[KX L]

Yes, if you move the wheel at all, autopilot is off instantly. If you push throttle you get throttle just like adaptive, and if you brake it drops all of them. If you turn the wheel it will still leave intelligent cruise on (which is smarter than the adaptive in the Jeep). So you have multiple ways to take over instantly.

You can't compare the Jeep and Tesla. The moron who would have clipped you probably would be noticed by the Tesla, but not the Jeep. My brother was driving when someone did that, and he said the car's reaction was violent but accurate. Scared the shit out of him, but saved a collision. A friend went to hit the brakes in his because of a collision right in front of him, but the car beat him to it. Oh, the Tesla bounces RADAR under the car in front to see the next car up. I've got about 8k miles on both systems, and the Jeep is a game of Pong while the Tesla is today's VR. It can also see blind spots where you can't. And it sees 360 at all times, if you're a standard-issue human, you don't, I certainly don't.

There are two redundant sets of steering controls and sensors.

Yes sir but your ability to take control can't happen if you're reading or working like you said you sometimes do. Bottomline is if you get in a crash because the car doesn't see something in time my guess is you'll be sued and have to go through all the crap that entails.

More importantly Tesla is absolutely clear that Autopilot is a safety feature and you are still responsible to be in complete control of the car.

Finally the stats on safety that Tesla presents are the typical BS advertising that produces fantastic statistics but they refuse to provide the definitions of what they're talking about. Just. Like. Every. Other. Car. Company.

The guy who wrote this article for Forbes specifically bought a Tesla for it's safety---but he hasn't swallowed the BS that the Tesla Marketing department produces.

Tesla Safety Stats

FYI, I am a huge Tesla and Elon Musk fan.

 

[SwampNut]

I’ve never read anything from Tesla and I hate hearing musk talk. I prefer reality for my decisions. After 8k miles I know when I can totally trust it, and when not. Experience is surprising and not really what I expected.

 

[Supazuk]

day one... now figuring out all the functions about 2 weeks

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