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The JT rubicon has different fenders (mounted higher), there is no lift compared to a Sport.
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Pretty sure the JTR comes with a factory lift, that’s why it accepts 35’s right off the factory floor... there are a couple threads here on the forum about the factory lift. Don’t think it’s terribly high... 1-1/2” to 2” maybe... but the factory Rubis (JT’s & JL’s) stand higher than other trim lines, aside from the raised fenders. Could be the Rubi suspension? The JT Overland is definitely lower than the JT Rubi! ;{
I am 98% sure there is no lift on the the factory JTR's. The high different is from the fenders and the bigger tires (33's). I am 100% that I have never read anything about the JTR's having a lift from the factory. It also makes no sense to have a Mopar 2 inch lift if the stock JTR's already have a 1 1/2 to 2 inch lift.
 

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I am 98% sure there is no lift on the the factory JTR's. The high different is from the fenders and the bigger tires (33's). I am 100% that I have never read anything about the JTR's having a lift from the factory. It also makes no sense to have a Mopar 2 inch lift if the stock JTR's already have a 1 1/2 to 2 inch lift.
So you’re saying there’s no difference between the Rubicon suspension and the Overland suspension, except the tires and fenders? ;{
 

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So you’re saying there’s no difference between the Rubicon suspension and the Overland suspension, except the tires and fenders? ;{
No, what everyone is saying is that there is no difference in the springs. The shocks are different (Rubi has fox shocks). Otherwise there has been no indication from FCA or any videos that say the Rubi comes with a lift.

A combination of the flares being higher and bigger stock tires makes it look like it is lifted when it is not.
 

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So you’re saying there’s no difference between the Rubicon suspension and the Overland suspension, except the tires and fenders? ;{
There are differences. I am just saying that i don't think lift is one of them.

Found this. It might help.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/gladiator-overland-vs-rubicon

I don't have any hard data that says there is or not a lift. I am thinking lack of proof of a lift is the proof that there is not a lift. The shocks are different for sure.
 

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There are differences. I am just saying that i don't think lift is one of them.

Found this. It might help.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/gladiator-overland-vs-rubicon

I don't have any hard data that says there is or not a lift. I am thinking lack of proof of a lift is the proof that there is not a lift. The shocks are different for sure.
There are differences. I am just saying that i don't think lift is one of them.

Found this. It might help.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/gladiator-overland-vs-rubicon

I don't have any hard data that says there is or not a lift. I am thinking lack of proof of a lift is the proof that there is not a lift. The shocks are different for sure.
There are differences. I am just saying that i don't think lift is one of them.

Found this. It might help.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/gladiator-overland-vs-rubicon

I don't have any hard data that says there is or not a lift. I am thinking lack of proof of a lift is the proof that there is not a lift. The shocks are different for sure.
No, what everyone is saying is that there is no difference in the springs. The shocks are different (Rubi has fox shocks). Otherwise there has been no indication from FCA or any videos that say the Rubi comes with a lift.

A combination of the flares being higher and bigger stock tires makes it look like it is lifted when it is not.
Got it! No stock lift on the Rubis. They just come (from the factory) a couple inches taller than the other trims. Got it! ;{
 

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Got it! No stock lift on the Rubis. They just come (from the factory) a couple inches taller than the other trims. Got it! ;{
I am not trying to prove you wrong or right. I am also not going to do the research for you. I am just stating there are other things that would make the JTR look taller by a few inches without a lift.
Plus a Mopar two inch left makes a difference on the JTR. So I think is highly unlikely that the spring heaght is different between trims in stock form.

I could be wrong. I would love to know for sure.
 

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I am not trying to prove you wrong or right. I am also not going to do the research for you. I am just stating there are other things that would make the JTR look taller by a few inches without a lift.
Plus a Mopar two inch left makes a difference on the JTR. So I think is highly unlikely that the spring heaght is different between trims in stock form.

I could be wrong. I would love to know for sure.
It’s all good... I’m getting a Granite LE Rubicon that I can immediately put 35’s on, without having to get a lift! I’m thrilled! I just didn’t see much difference between the lifts on trucks in his photos above! ;{
 

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Got it! No stock lift on the Rubis. They just come (from the factory) a couple inches taller than the other trims. Got it! ;{
couple inches measured from the ground to what?, bumper, rocker panel, fender?
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