Yeah, that seems a little strange, and I don't understand their logic.
It’s not logic. They’re trying to claim fuel and oil refresh is the reason. We drive ours 70 miles on the interstate, and when we got off the exit, electric not available. They’ve got a flawed system and they don’t want to fix it. It cost us thousands to sell ours back at a loss.
So these are not temperature controlled? They should have been made so that even in cold weather, the cooling/heating system would warm them to proper temperature to make them useful. Even if even lower range due to temperature... but still functional.
I recall Brad liked the 4XE overall. Unfortunately, every time he took it out, the dash would light up like a pinball machine and the drive train wouldn't work properly. He takes his Jeeps to very remote areas and he needs reliability. Since he didn't get the impression his 4XE was reliable, he got rid of it. His particular 4XE may have been a lemon. I wouldn't know since I don't own one.
I don't either, and the off-road EV range is less than on-road as might be expected.
Well, perhaps the lawsuit will be effective for those coming behind.
The fact that it might take a lawsuit for Jeep to fix this isn’t ok though. I’m not a litigious person, and have never sued anyone, but this is legit.
I agree, but I think the corporate perspective of Toyota has changed in the last decade sorry to say.
I’ve owned one used Toyota in the past, and it was solid. But I tend to agree. It seems they’ve decided they have an in-demand brand, so they aren’t trying as much anymore. Maybe not, but it’s my impression.
I Have a 4XE Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 4XE and I like it. Traded in the Sahara High Altitude 3.6l. If you want message me back and I can tell you how that one works as it is the exact same setup in the Wrangler 4XE the differences being in the ride, and few extra miles from aerodynamics but the towing is a lot more. I have a 6000lbs tow rating. The biggest factor in towing isn’t the motor but the wheelbase. If you tow 3500 lbs in a Wrangler and use all the necessary tow stuff you are limited by speed due to the nature of hitch towing (lots of videos on YouTube). The longer the wheelbase the easier it is to tow which is why the Gladiator tows so much better and with a higher rating. The ram 1500 tows better than the Gladiator with the same engine as well. I used to HOTSHOT so I can say with experience towing is not about how much you can pull as it is about how safely can you pull, stop, maneuver, and ride.
One of the primary reasons I shifted from the five Tacomas I've owned, the last a TRDPro with three recalls, to the Gladiator, and glad I did. It's far and away a better off-road vehicle than the Tacoma. Toyota could improve the Tacoma, but if you look at the sales numbers they don't need to. I imagine that may change in the future. You can see all the former Tacoma owners in this forum, and that's just us noisy guys, not necessarily the majority.
The new body style alone should make people run. It’s hideous.
