Mojave Folks or anyone else that wants to chime in... How fast is too fast?!

[Minty JL]

Meh...I felt the same way until I started doing my research. Towing capacity is dog shite and its range is likewise. That may or may not be an issue depending on where you live and whether or not you tow, and the Mojave has a lower tow capacity than other gas models to begin with. My dealer had a Wrangler 4xE that was literally traded in after a few weeks because the owner was furious at it's lack of range...which arguably could have been avoided with some basic research.

21 miles all electric driving range, 49 MPGe and 370 miles total driving range. It's a gimmick at best for urban mall crawlers and isn't worth (in my opinion for my particular situation) the significant aggravation and cost not to mention that mining cobalt and lithium, etc. and generating the power necessary to be able to charge them (unless you're on 100% off-grid solar power) hardly makes them the environmental savior the so-called environmentalists try to make them out to be. Those batteries also have a finite life cycle and can only take so many charges and discharges before they're no longer viable and their disposal is a hazardous waste nightmare. The diesel refining process (which is less so than that of gasoline) and running a diesel would actually be a more environmentally conscious decision, not to mention the use of literal slave labor to mine lithium, cobalt, etc. in third world countries. Diesel/biodiesel is a FAR better fuel alternative for those most concerned with Mother/Planet Earth. I'm not the least bit "woke" nor an environmentalist by any stretch of the imagination, I just possess critical thinking and analysis skills and apply them to actual facts. I'm NOT saying that you don't...I'm just say'n!

Oh I totally agree with you!

It would be my daily/off road rig and towing is not a concern for me. I just want the torque for big tires LOL.

More then likely I'll end up with a JTRD and throw the Banks goodies at it

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[Ray Howrad]

The Mojave is going to feel very very limited with Ivan Stewart (or equivalent) behind the wheel. I am certainly no Ivan Stewart, but I have competed in desert racing off and on for 30 years, in a number of different vehicle classes. I think the small pickup platform is ideal for an off road exploration vehicle. And I know the importance of suspension in an off road vehicle, so that is why the Mojave intrigued me enough to buy one. I'm happy with my Mojave overall, and the suspension is clearly better than other Jeep vehicles I have owned. But the Mojave is no desert racer. The limiting factor is suspension travel. My Mojave has 3 1/2" of up travel in the front suspension before the bump stop makes contact. That is better than the 1 1/2" of up travel with a Rubicon diesel, but it is still very very limited for a go fast off road vehicle. A foot of up travel starts getting you in the realm of a true go fast machine. The Mojave has very good suspension that does a great job of absorbing small bumps and surface irregularities. But as soon as you hit a medium to large bump at speed the Mojave blows through its suspension travel instantly, and bottoms out hard. The Mojave is beefed up compared to other Jeeps, and can certainly tolerate the frequent pad slap from the hydraulic front bump stops, and can even tolerate fully bottoming out the bump stops numerous times. But I wouldn't go out there and push it hard right from the start. Get used to it with slower speeds and then build up speed as you feel comfortable with. If you are bottoming the suspension frequently you are pushing too hard.

Just by way of comparison, I drove a nearby desert course in my Mojave one Saturday at what I thought was a comfortable pace, and it took me 30 minutes to get to the first stopping point, which is a pretty overlook. I did the same course with my current desert machine, also at what I thought was a comfortable pace, and it took 10 minutes to get to the same point. So it depends on what you are comparing it to. Compared to another non-Mojave Gladiator the Mojave is good. Compared to a desert racer, not so impressive.

Thanks for this response. It actually answers a question regarding the bumpstops I had just posted.