Snow plow

[ShadowsPapa]

Wouldn't a hitch mounted cargo carrier be superior for this job? Use leverage to offset leverage

Yeah, but my back won't appreciate having to add or remove that when the plow is off or on and I've only so much length in my garage.
But it's a thought as 2 years ago when playing around with my 2020 to see how it MIGHT handle xx hitch weight - I used my cargo carrier with blocks on it and sank the truck's butt end like crazy! Leverage for sure.
OTOH, the point of it being "back there" and "leverage" means less weight needed to offset the front weight.

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[Rusty PW]

But they have capable trucks - heavier steering, heavier suspension, etc. - at least I hope.
No way in hell I'd leave a plow on a Gladiator all season! No way I'd use these for more than personal plowing.
I've had mine on and off several times - moved it around, maneuvered with it, practiced, made sure I could garage it with plow on and so on, and it's been enough to say - if you hate your truck go ahead, leave it on. But if you like your truck, and appreciate being able to steer and maneuver in traffic at speed - take the plow off.

Like I said earlier - the dealer had never put one on a Jeep - they'd never seen one of these plows installed on a Jeep. So I showed them my install.

Half tons mostly, with the salt box spreaders in the bed. Bunch of guys with 4x4's who think that they can make a buck plowing snow. The landscapers who try to stay busy in the winter bringing in extra cash.

My brother had a plowing business for a while. Used a '88 Dodge 1/2 ton 4x4. Plowed for 12 yrs with that truck. About once a season. I had to straighten and weld the plow frame on it from hitting something that was buried in the snow. He had a contract for the local Army reserve. That contract PAID well. It was based on the number of inches. We did the sidewalks and parking lot.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Half tons mostly, with the salt box spreaders in the bed. Bunch of guys with 4x4's who think that they can make a buck plowing snow. The landscapers who try to stay busy in the winter bringing in extra cash.

My brother had a plowing business for a while. Used a '88 Dodge 1/2 ton 4x4. Plowed for 12 yrs with that truck. About once a season. I had to straighten and weld the plow frame on it from hitting something that was buried in the snow. He had a contract for the local Army reserve. That contract PAID well. It was based on the number of inches. We did the sidewalks and parking lot.

My 2011 Silverado 1500 4x4 would very easily handle a plow like I've got for the JT.
No question. It's wider, longer, more stable, the PS is stronger (would handle the load of the heavy blade out front) and the weight of the rear of the Chevy would keep the rear end planted more firmly than the JT ever could.

I have a feeling the JT's frame will be more prone to damage than the crazy heavy-duty plow structure. (C in the pic below)

 

[Gatorized]

Wouldn't a hitch mounted cargo carrier be superior for this job? Use leverage to offset leverage

Just something else to have to worry about bashing into an immovable object while maneuvering to clear the snow!

 

[Summitsearcher]

I’ve been looking for a snow plow for Overland diesel and everything I’ve seen online only gives options with the gas motor. Called the local western plow dealer and he said they can’t mount one with the diesel motor. Anyone had any luck finding one for the diesels and why wouldn’t they offer one for the diesel Gladiators?

This Snowsport is light but floating. No wires, hydraulics, aluminum and maybe 100#. Just need to add a front receive and does not block airflow.

 

[Komato]

Thanks for the replies, I honestly never thought about the payload capacity side of it. Looks like a Polaris Ranger with a blade on it is in my future lol. Hope y'all have a Merry Christmas

 

[ShadowsPapa]

This Snowsport is light but floating. No wires, hydraulics, aluminum and maybe 100#. Just need to add a front receive and does not block airflow.

I considered something like that, in fact, it was the secondary reason to have a receiver up front (primary was for parking and maneuvering my car hauler in the narrow spaces I have by my shop)
But after communicating several times with a forum member who has had plows on Jeeps and plowed with them, I decided not.
Biggest negatives for me - with my Raynauds, and back issues, climbing out and in after every single pass to angle the blade and such - it would be easier to use the John Deere lawn tractor. I need power angle and power lift, power down. I need to back-drag away from things. My neighbor is 80 and not getting around well these days so I figure I may pull up to their garage door and drag the drift back off the concrete approach. A drift always forms after our storms here right in front of their garage and our garage. The deepest snow is usually there due to the way the wind goes around the houses.
I can drag snow back away from his shop door, off his shop's concrete approach.
He'd never let me do his driveway - he's made clear - "NO BLADE on the gravel!!". (doesn't mean I can't drop the skids and float lightly over it LOL)
There were other factors, of course......pictures and such. So I changed my mind and told my wife - figure the blade budget x3.
But it was honestly close - those have their places - a lot of people are going to love 'em. The light weight means pretty much any "capable" Jeep can do it. I had already looked at and priced a couple similar to yours.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Just something else to have to worry about bashing into an immovable object while maneuvering to clear the snow!

I need to post pics of how close it's going to be as it is........ If this truck was any bigger it would be a no-go. I'll need to back up to the point of the rear bumper almost touching the side of the house, or our garage doors, etc. so this winter, if it ever snows more than 2", I'll be learning and experimenting. Give me 5 acres, a 1086 with a 3 point PTO powered snow blower, or a 656 with a bucket, or a 3 point blade and I can make art in your driveway, but this will be a different animal.
I'll be honest - installing, mounting, wiring it all, making it all work, hooking up, unhooking, that's all one thing. Actually doing work and not taking out the end of the house or front of the garage - that will be different. Especially since I have ZERO depth perception due to my right eye only being 10% functional.

 

[Summitsearcher]

I considered something like that, in fact, it was the secondary reason to have a receiver up front (primary was for parking and maneuvering my car hauler in the narrow spaces I have by my shop)
But after communicating several times with a forum member who has had plows on Jeeps and plowed with them, I decided not.
Biggest negatives for me - with my Raynauds, and back issues, climbing out and in after every single pass to angle the blade and such - it would be easier to use the John Deere lawn tractor. I need power angle and power lift, power down. I need to back-drag away from things. My neighbor is 80 and not getting around well these days so I figure I may pull up to their garage door and drag the drift back off the concrete approach. A drift always forms after our storms here right in front of their garage and our garage. The deepest snow is usually there due to the way the wind goes around the houses.
I can drag snow back away from his shop door, off his shop's concrete approach.
He'd never let me do his driveway - he's made clear - "NO BLADE on the gravel!!". (doesn't mean I can't drop the skids and float lightly over it LOL)
There were other factors, of course......pictures and such. So I changed my mind and told my wife - figure the blade budget x3.
But it was honestly close - those have their places - a lot of people are going to love 'em. The light weight means pretty much any "capable" Jeep can do it. I had already looked at and priced a couple similar to yours.

Mine definitely has its drawbacks based on physical limitations. I really enjoyed your install, very informative for those that can tackle it. I don’t have the mental/physical aptitude to accomplish that. I only lift one side at a time to lower it so it’s not bad for me. Don’t usually have to lift it until I’m done. I really wanted a blade for my tractor but I plow my brothers place as well. I needed warmth/heated seats and place to put my coffee. ? I can stack it pretty good, better than a snow shovel.

Always appreciate your input.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Mine definitely has its drawbacks based on physical limitations. I really enjoyed your install, very informative for those that can tackle it. I don’t have the mental/physical aptitude to accomplish that. I only lift one side at a time to lower it so it’s not bad for me. Don’t usually have to lift it until I’m done. I really wanted a blade for my tractor but I plow my brothers place as well. I needed warmth/heated seats and place to put my coffee. ? I can stack it pretty good, better than a snow shovel.

Always appreciate your input.

That's a positive about a blade that can float - you can stack it.

 

[Rockntoy]

Just my 2 cents. can you put airbags in the front springs to help with the load and keep the truck more level. I do not use a plow but my blade on my kapota does a good job.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Just my 2 cents. can you put airbags in the front springs to help with the load and keep the truck more level. I do not use a plow but my blade on my kapota does a good job.

Not sure how you could do that considering the location of the bump stops.............

This is with suspension fully extended down -full droop, and there's not much space -

This is with weight off the truck, but suspension not extended or pulled down. Sitting on the wheels normally loaded there's even less space than this inside those coils.

They'd be really tiny/short and interfere with the normal bump stop operation and in fact, could push up against it.

 

[Rockntoy]

I see that won't work but how about the old rubber spring spacers the old hotrodders used for raising the rear of their GM cars back in the 60"s. You had to twist them into the springs .
JEGS 60836 Coil Spacer Boosters 1" Lift

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I see that won't work but how about the old rubber spring spacers the old hotrodders used for raising the rear of their GM cars back in the 60"s. You had to twist them into the springs .
JEGS 60836 Coil Spacer Boosters 1" Lift

Problem there is that you'd take a spring already pushed down, compressed, and take some of the coils out of play. Those aren't exactly something I'd use in a decent truck. Hard on springs, IMO.
The only true way, IMO - is springs with a higher rate. That's going to impact your ride when there's no plow on it. Next best is perhaps a spacer above the front spring so that the whole spring still works. That would lift the front when there's no plow on the front, though.

For me, it will likely be another pair of Synergy springs - they are multi-rate and won't impact the ride much. I have the 1" lift springs, I'd try the 2" lift springs.
When I put the steel bumper, winch, heavy winch plate, and front receiver up there it took the front of my Overland down about 1".
The 1" synergy springs were supposed to lift a Rubicon with steel bumper, winch, skid plate and so on 1" but all it did for mine was put it back to normal Overland ride height.
So the 2" springs should get me back to normal plus raise it 1". And if you look at my truck, there's a lot of rake without the plow loaded up.

 

[6006spd]

Well I have had both 1st was a gas rubi now I have the exact same only eco diesel I will tell you the gas did better holding the plow up, the eco is pretty much on the bump stops all the time, springs are to weak for sure, hit any bump or Train tracks it hits hard, as for heating issues Non existent , I am in Ontario CANADA it’s cold, eco diesels will bottom out new with nothing on the front they need different springs, I am putting on my Aev spacer kit so will see if it helps at all, mine is a snow dog plow for the gladiator or reg jl steering and all are fine , I installed this plow in both jeeps the first gas last winter and the eco this fall

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