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For me, filling up all 4 tires in 30 seconds is pretty amazing. The local 4x4 shop fills co2, and I can do 6 or 7 air ups with 37’s. I even stopped bringing the spare compressor, as it’s been completely reliable. On long trips I’ll bring a small m12 Milwaukee inflator just in case, but it never gets used.
Mine have been reliable as well. What Power Tank doesn't explain is that the tanks, being containers for liquified gas, are stamped with dates. Anywhere that fills CO2 has to pay attention to those dates, because if one fails, they become liable. This is why they have to be "Float" Tested or pressure tested every 2 years. Once it's tested, they'll be re-stamped. This is why they have to be sent off to wherever they're sent off to. I'm guessing I'm 100% correct in that your tank will not be bubble wrapped to protect the finish etc. They don't care that you spent 400-700 on your set up...it's just a tank to they that will be stacked on the back of a truck. Kind of like propane tanks. I'm not sure if there's a way you can guarantee if you get your tank back. Surly there is, but the several places I tried to confirm this stated they couldn't.
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Mine have been reliable as well. What Power Tank doesn't explain is that the tanks, being containers for liquified gas, are stamped with dates. Anywhere that fills CO2 has to pay attention to those dates, because if one fails, they become liable. This is why they have to be "Float" Tested or pressure tested every 2 years. Once it's tested, they'll be re-stamped. This is why they have to be sent off to wherever they're sent off to. I'm guessing I'm 100% correct in that your tank will not be bubble wrapped to protect the finish etc. They don't care that you spent 400-700 on your set up...it's just a tank to they that will be stacked on the back of a truck. Kind of like propane tanks. I'm not sure if there's a way you can guarantee if you get your tank back. Surly there is, but the several places I tried to confirm this stated they couldn't.
To be fair, I didn’t spend the excessive markup that is powertank money. My setup for a 10lb tank, 250psi regulator, handle/regulator guard, and mount, is as less than $400 from Preece Precision.
 

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Mine have been reliable as well. What Power Tank doesn't explain is that the tanks, being containers for liquified gas, are stamped with dates. Anywhere that fills CO2 has to pay attention to those dates, because if one fails, they become liable. This is why they have to be "Float" Tested or pressure tested every 2 years. Once it's tested, they'll be re-stamped. This is why they have to be sent off to wherever they're sent off to. I'm guessing I'm 100% correct in that your tank will not be bubble wrapped to protect the finish etc. They don't care that you spent 400-700 on your set up...it's just a tank to they that will be stacked on the back of a truck. Kind of like propane tanks. I'm not sure if there's a way you can guarantee if you get your tank back. Surly there is, but the several places I tried to confirm this stated they couldn't.
How much did you get charged to pressure test it?
 

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How much did you get charged to pressure test it?
Never had it done. They wanted me to turn in the tank and couldn't guarantee the condition or even if I could get the same tank back. 3 places basically pointed to standard grey tanks they had sitting along the wall and indicated they could transfer the hardware over. My 15lb tank is sitting in a 5th wheel in covered storage and the 10lb tank is sitting in a friends shop incase he ever needed parts from it. They're basically big paper weights. My Twin ARB / Kraken system on the other hand gets used at least monthly.
 

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Never had it done. They wanted me to turn in the tank and couldn't guarantee the condition or even if I could get the same tank back. 3 places basically pointed to standard grey tanks they had sitting along the wall and indicated they could transfer the hardware over. My 15lb tank is sitting in a 5th wheel in covered storage and the 10lb tank is sitting in a friends shop incase he ever needed parts from it. They're basically big paper weights. My Twin ARB / Kraken system on the other hand gets used at least monthly.
Why not just get one pressure tested somewhere where they can do it on the spot? Have you called your vendor, I assume powertank, to see what they suggest? I could even replace the tank for $159 brand new. If I find that I need to do that every two years, I’m totally fine with it. I love silent 30 second air ups.
 

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Why not just get one pressure tested somewhere where they can do it on the spot? Have you called your vendor, I assume powertank, to see what they suggest? I could even replace the tank for $159 brand new. If I find that I need to do that every two years, I’m totally fine with it. I love silent 30 second air ups.
I tried in Ft. Lauderdale, Boca Raton, Tyler TX, and several other places in TX and non of them did it in house nor did they know somewhere that did it on the spot. Supposedly, they send them to a non retail location that does them in bulk.

If memory serves me right, I did attempt to inquire with Power Tank and they didn't have the information. I asked when I had to upgrade my air chuck because the pressure was too grate on the one I had and I actually damaged the one it came with.

It's not something I have to worry about now since I have an unlimited supply of compressed air on board.
 

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I tried in Ft. Lauderdale, Boca Raton, Tyler TX, and several other places in TX and non of them did it in house nor did they know somewhere that did it on the spot. Supposedly, they send them to a non retail location that does them in bulk.

If memory serves me right, I did attempt to inquire with Power Tank and they didn't have the information. I asked when I had to upgrade my air chuck because the pressure was too grate on the one I had and I actually damaged the one it came with.

It's not something I have to worry about now since I have an unlimited supply of compressed air on board.
I get your point. I used to use a compressor as well. I just got sick of 10 minute fill ups, often with tired family members ready to go home. And I like that it’s silent for late nights with people in close proximity.
 

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I get your point. I used to use a compressor as well. I just got sick of 10 minute fill ups, often with tired family members ready to go home. And I like that it’s silent for late nights with people in close proximity.
I get it. but think of it this way... That small amount of time gives you the opportunity to check your rig out to make sure nothing loosened up for a safe drive home...take a leak etc. Additionally, if you're airing up where you're worried about disturbing people late at night...you're not wheeling far enough out...LOL

I can remember last summer I wheeled Ocala NF and drove through spider webs with spiders in them so big they looked like crabs hanging upside down. Yeah...not that type of critter person. In fact, I drove 5 miles down the road where I found a closed convenient store to air up. I slowly opened the door expecting one of those freaking buggers to come down... Jumped out with hose bag in hand and shut the door to take a look. I found over 10 of them crouched down holding onto paint, nooks and crannies. I plugged in the system and flicked the switch on and shut each front door 1 click and stepped away from the truck. Feeling a little queazy, I remembered I had my Bug-a-salt gun in the bed and went to town. By the time I slaughtered those suckers and looked for more I was ready to go.
 

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Out of curiosity, what pressure are these tanks rated to and what material are they made of? The reason that I ask is that many SCUBA shops pressure test tanks regularly. My bet is that they can test these and they are very used to returning the same tank that was given to them. (Scuba tanks are typically aluminum or steel with pressures ranging from 2k to just short of 4k and they provide DOT stamps too) ... just a thought
 

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Out of curiosity, what pressure are these tanks rated to and what material are they made of? The reason that I ask is that many SCUBA shops pressure test tanks regularly. My bet is that they can test these and they are very used to returning the same tank that was given to them. (Scuba tanks are typically aluminum or steel with pressures ranging from 2k to just short of 4k and they provide DOT stamps too) ... just a thought
Good idea. Aluminum tank. I think rated for 3k psi.
 

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Out of curiosity, what pressure are these tanks rated to and what material are they made of? The reason that I ask is that many SCUBA shops pressure test tanks regularly. My bet is that they can test these and they are very used to returning the same tank that was given to them. (Scuba tanks are typically aluminum or steel with pressures ranging from 2k to just short of 4k and they provide DOT stamps too) ... just a thought
This is a good question, which I don't have an answer. I believe the CO2 is compressed into liquid form. Once it leaves the tank it turns into a gas and expands, which is how it creates pressure. I'm not sure this is how H20 works.
 

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This is a good question, which I don't have an answer. I believe the CO2 is compressed into liquid form. Once it leaves the tank it turns into a gas and expands, which is how it creates pressure. I'm not sure this is how H20 works.
I will stop the thread hijack momentarily... if they are Aluminum and rated to 3k psi, then these are the same as a common type of SCUBA cylinder except they are being filled with a different gas/liquid during use (but testing and certification will be the same ... they have the same hydrostatic test requirements (you will probably see a DOT stamp on your tank) ... I can't remember which of these 2 videos is better, but these should give you a good understanding of the testing process (if I recall there are a couple of minor regulatory differences because he originates from Canada).

Given that your tanks are aluminum, you will also be asked if you want a "viz" ... think bore scope that looks for cracks and corrosion.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVYeFPhX1OE&ved=2ahUKEwjyl_7ysfj_AhUQlWoFHRbHALUQo7QBegQIBRAG&usg=AOvVaw0xj-4pCwN5Q-w2qgt9USn5

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The chatter above has me looking at a CO2 tanks set up verse a compressor.
 
 







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