Sponsored

Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon?

Deer stand

Member
First Name
Bob
Joined
Jul 14, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
7
Reaction score
3
Location
New Jersey
Vehicle(s)
2023 Mojave gladiator
Occupation
Retired Fire Captain
Can you mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon
Sponsored

 

kevman65

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 8, 2020
Threads
51
Messages
3,880
Reaction score
5,758
Location
H
Vehicle(s)
J
The only disclaimer they have is it won't fit the Mojave because of the front shocks.

It doesn't list the Rubicon, the High Altitude or anything but Sport and Overland.

Anything that fits one, will fit them all, even the Mojave, because the remote reservoirs can be relocated.
 
OP
OP

Deer stand

Member
First Name
Bob
Joined
Jul 14, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
7
Reaction score
3
Location
New Jersey
Vehicle(s)
2023 Mojave gladiator
Occupation
Retired Fire Captain
The only disclaimer they have is it won't fit the Mojave because of the front shocks.

It doesn't list the Rubicon, the High Altitude or anything but Sport and Overland.

Anything that fits one, will fit them all, even the Mojave, because the remote reservoirs can be relocated.
I was twenty minutes from signing the contract for the Mojave , moving the remote reservoirs seems a pricey. So I’m heavily leaning towards the rubicon they’re basically the same each has their own advantages. But the Mojave is sweet
 

Sponsored

kevman65

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 8, 2020
Threads
51
Messages
3,880
Reaction score
5,758
Location
H
Vehicle(s)
J

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,504
Reaction score
54,031
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
The only disclaimer they have is it won't fit the Mojave because of the front shocks.

It doesn't list the Rubicon, the High Altitude or anything but Sport and Overland.

Anything that fits one, will fit them all, even the Mojave, because the remote reservoirs can be relocated.
Height of the from the ground is a consideration, space for the mounting bar (likely a problem with Rubicon and the sway bar motor/disconnect) and so on.
if you want a plow on a Mojave, you'll need a different mounting setup than the Overland or Sport use.

Also know that driving with the plow on the front will likely mess with your HVAC system so best to unhook the plow before doing a lot of driving.

It's a lot of weight up there as well.

If the Mojave frame is different up front at all - that's a consideration.
I had to remove my Rubicon skid plate and make some mods to the plow brackets to clear the Rubicon bumper. So maybe they are taking all that into account - sway bar, frame, bumper, shocks, whatever. I wonder if they don't like Rubicon due to the sway bar system?
It's a complex setup for a full plow with hydraulics.
Mine would have cleared a stock plastic bumper fine but not a steel bumper, and skid plate has to go. The Overland air dam could likely stay once plow is installed but not a skid plate. No way.

Depending on the plow you get - be ready for some really fun wiring. (for me it was fun - I love electrical work!)

Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20230214_142049


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20230216_173819_HDR


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221225_161719


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221006_170709


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221006_104033


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221006_103958_HDR

Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221023_141136



And the electric - A plow must integrate with the truck's lighting, turn signals, park lights, headlights high and low, DRLs and so on.
It's a lot of wiring. Mine has a 200 amp fuse and big cables to run, wiring into the cab for the hand-held control, etc.

Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221216_150354_HDR


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221022_113423


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221022_125508_HDR


I made an acrylic adapter so I could hang my plow control in my phone mount -

Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20221201_094409_HDR
 
OP
OP

Deer stand

Member
First Name
Bob
Joined
Jul 14, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
7
Reaction score
3
Location
New Jersey
Vehicle(s)
2023 Mojave gladiator
Occupation
Retired Fire Captain
Height of the from the ground is a consideration, space for the mounting bar (likely a problem with Rubicon and the sway bar motor/disconnect) and so on.
if you want a plow on a Mojave, you'll need a different mounting setup than the Overland or Sport use.

Also know that driving with the plow on the front will likely mess with your HVAC system so best to unhook the plow before doing a lot of driving.

It's a lot of weight up there as well.

If the Mojave frame is different up front at all - that's a consideration.
I had to remove my Rubicon skid plate and make some mods to the plow brackets to clear the Rubicon bumper. So maybe they are taking all that into account - sway bar, frame, bumper, shocks, whatever. It's a complex setup for a full plow with hydraulics.

Depending on the plow you get - be ready for some really fun wiring. (for me it was fun - I love electrical work!)

20230214_142049.jpg


20230216_173819_HDR.jpg


20221225_161719.jpg


20221006_170709.jpg


20221006_104033.jpg


20221006_103958_HDR.jpg

20221023_141136.jpg



And the electric - A plow must integrate with the truck's lighting, turn signals, park lights, headlights high and low, DRLs and so on.
It's a lot of wiring. Mine has a 200 amp fuse and big cables to run, wiring into the cab for the hand-held control, etc.

20221216_150354_HDR.jpg


20221022_113423.jpg


20221022_125508_HDR.jpg


I made an acrylic adapter so I could hang my plow control in my phone mount -

20221201_094409_HDR.jpg
I only put the plow on to plow my 675 ft driveway, other then that just the mounting bracket would be left on during the normal course of driving. If moving the shock reservoirs on the Mojave would be less of an issue then mounting it on the rubicon do to sway bar. What’s your opinion. Thanks for your assistance I’m not that savvy. If you need protection I could do that lol
 

kevman65

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 8, 2020
Threads
51
Messages
3,880
Reaction score
5,758
Location
H
Vehicle(s)
J
Sway bar motor can be rotated up and out of the way. Takes one longer bolt to do this.
Non issue.
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,504
Reaction score
54,031
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
If I were to choose Mojave vs. Rubicon with the big consideration being plowing, I'd choose Rubicon.

Yes, you can rotate that sway bar motor up and out of the way - quite a few people have done it over the years.

Definitely unhook the plow when driving out and about.
In my case, it's 300 pounds sticking 2 + feet out front and it's a lot of weight up there, and what happens when driving with the plow is that there's a low pressure area created between plow and front of the truck and it pulls engine bay air FORWARD - causing the engine temp to run higher than normal and - this -

Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 99-snow-2


It was actually about 10 degrees out. Snow on the ground. The HVAC though it was hot out so we had NO heat! We were freezing in that truck.

Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? -degree-sno


Note the truck thinks it's 81 out - hardly!

Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20230120_084129
 

Sponsored

Main Line Willys

Well-Known Member
First Name
Ben
Joined
Feb 8, 2023
Threads
12
Messages
245
Reaction score
356
Location
Wayne, PA
Vehicle(s)
2022 JTR
@ShadowsPapa I cannot speak on authority with having a plow on a Gladiator or any Jeep, but I do have experience with plows.

Next time you have your plow mounted and you are on the road, angle the blade almost all the way to the right. Do not drive with the blade straight.

Different trucks that I have plowed with I have been able to adjust the airflow with different angles on the blade. Just off full right angle always seemed to give the best cooling.
 

Summitsearcher

Well-Known Member
First Name
John
Joined
Dec 21, 2020
Threads
39
Messages
1,316
Reaction score
2,329
Location
Northern Michigan
Vehicle(s)
2021 Stingrey JTR
Occupation
Retired
Vehicle Showcase
2
Height of the from the ground is a consideration, space for the mounting bar (likely a problem with Rubicon and the sway bar motor/disconnect) and so on.
if you want a plow on a Mojave, you'll need a different mounting setup than the Overland or Sport use.

Also know that driving with the plow on the front will likely mess with your HVAC system so best to unhook the plow before doing a lot of driving.

It's a lot of weight up there as well.

If the Mojave frame is different up front at all - that's a consideration.
I had to remove my Rubicon skid plate and make some mods to the plow brackets to clear the Rubicon bumper. So maybe they are taking all that into account - sway bar, frame, bumper, shocks, whatever. I wonder if they don't like Rubicon due to the sway bar system?
It's a complex setup for a full plow with hydraulics.
Mine would have cleared a stock plastic bumper fine but not a steel bumper, and skid plate has to go. The Overland air dam could likely stay once plow is installed but not a skid plate. No way.

Depending on the plow you get - be ready for some really fun wiring. (for me it was fun - I love electrical work!)

20230214_142049.jpg


20230216_173819_HDR.jpg


20221225_161719.jpg


20221006_170709.jpg


20221006_104033.jpg


20221006_103958_HDR.jpg

20221023_141136.jpg



And the electric - A plow must integrate with the truck's lighting, turn signals, park lights, headlights high and low, DRLs and so on.
It's a lot of wiring. Mine has a 200 amp fuse and big cables to run, wiring into the cab for the hand-held control, etc.

20221216_150354_HDR.jpg


20221022_113423.jpg


20221022_125508_HDR.jpg


I made an acrylic adapter so I could hang my plow control in my phone mount -

20221201_094409_HDR.jpg
Wow Bill! That is one big honking LP tank in the background. You use all that for one winter season in Iowa? In the picture it looks as big as a train car!?
 

TuxerdoPark

Member
First Name
Todd
Joined
May 6, 2023
Threads
3
Messages
12
Reaction score
6
Location
Paris, Ontario
Vehicle(s)
JTR, TJR, LJR, CJ5A
Occupation
Manager
I have a Boss plow on my 2020 JL Rubicon and have had the same issue with the HVAC. It will be sub freezing temps and the outside temp reading will be 80’s, 90’s or more.
Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? D72F0D6C-7FA1-47D2-B397-7A26B5DDA809


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? DEC3C0ED-A431-4FF8-A842-CD8478E8BD7A
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,504
Reaction score
54,031
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
Wow Bill! That is one big honking LP tank in the background. You use all that for one winter season in Iowa? In the picture it looks as big as a train car!?
That's our neighbor's 1,000 gallon tank and it's pretty common in Iowa. He also has a line run to his shop and from there to a stationary generator with a Ford 4cyl engine and Kohler generator.
We had a 1,000 gallon tank when we had LP heat. You either do that or order more in the middle of a cold spell when the prices are stupid crazy. You buy when prices are low and hope it gets you through the winter.
When we moved here, the LP tank was up closer to the house and we wanted it moved away from the house to behind the garage. In exchange for the labor, copper and so on, we traded the 1,000 for a 500 and took our chances on prices. Then we went all electric and moved the 500 down to my shop and I run the 30' infrared LP heater in my shop off that (and generally it lasts until about the end of January and I try to milk it because prices are through the roof at that time.
No, 1,000 gallon tanks are pretty common for people who want it to last all season, or who, like our neighbor, also heat a shop. Some people don't like them because it's expensive to fill them since you buy 600+ gallons at a time, but it's cheaper in the end because you can buy when prices are at the bottom in summer. Don't wait until harvest season or you'll be waiting for them to fill all the tanks around the grain drying equipment on a lot of farms.

I have a Boss plow on my 2020 JL Rubicon and have had the same issue with the HVAC. It will be sub freezing temps and the outside temp reading will be 80’s, 90’s or more.
I thought it to be a sensor or vehicle issue and brought it up to the dealership shop when I was there chatting about other stuff one day. The service advisor, as Jerry calls "our favorite service advisor" was FANTASTIC (and has since quit) but he asked if I had the truck with me. It was cold out. I drove it into the check-in area and he spent about 45 minutes with me doing research, trying to find a pattern and we finally agreed - looks like it's the plow doing it.
So I agreed I'd drive my truck home (freezing my butt off) and immediately, while the HVAC wasn't working right and the temp on the dash said it was 60 outside when it was really only about 15-20, drop the plow and take it for a drive.
I got home, the reading was in the 50s close to 60, dropped the plow quickly and hit the road ASAP. I could watch the display temperature drop little by little until it was accurate.
That, coupled with a slightly elevated engine temperature with the plow on, and the fact that while plowing, meaning moving slow, plow dropped, etc. - the HVAC would burn me out of the cab settled it.
Plow causes low pressure between it and the grill, pulling engine bay air forward against the sensor and working opposing the fan and normal air flow causing slightly elevated engine temperatures (never in the danger zone, just weird for winter!)

So anyone driving on the road over about 20 mph or so with a plow attached and raised is likely to have HVAC and temp sensor reading issues. The HVAC uses that temp sensor to determine what's REALLY needed If it thinks it's 80 outside, it's going to run the AC and throttle back the heat.

My temp reading was as high as 101 a couple of times.
I had thought of relocating the temp sensor but then you really fix nothing as the engine bay air is still pulled forward into the low pressure behind the plow, negatively impacting engine cooling and then there's the fact that you have low pressure where the engine is trying to pull air in on that right-most grill opening. So I drop the plow and move on. Better for the Jeep anyway.


Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20230130_103312

Jeep Gladiator Mount a fisher snowplow to a 2023 gladiator rubicon? 20230130_103324
 

ShadowsPapa

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bill
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Threads
247
Messages
40,504
Reaction score
54,031
Location
Runnells, Iowa
Vehicle(s)
'25 JTMX, '23 JLU 4xe, '82 SX4, '73 Javelin
Occupation
Retired auto mechanic, frmr gov't ntwrk security admin
Vehicle Showcase
3
@ShadowsPapa I cannot speak on authority with having a plow on a Gladiator or any Jeep, but I do have experience with plows.

Next time you have your plow mounted and you are on the road, angle the blade almost all the way to the right. Do not drive with the blade straight.

Different trucks that I have plowed with I have been able to adjust the airflow with different angles on the blade. Just off full right angle always seemed to give the best cooling.
I tried that. I told my wife "I have an idea, I wonder if it's the plow" and angled it all the way right. No effect, so I tweaked the angle to in between straight and angled - no effect.
Some effect for a while at just off full right but not a fix.
I then tried angled left - no improvement.
The negative - hit a dip and the rear of that blade can impact pavement (experience showed me that one)
That's why at first I thought maybe it's not the plow because it wasn't really a big change at all. At first I thought the sensor reading was dropping, and it may have but was still very elevated and the HVAC still responded accordingly.

You may want to switch to a dual/multiple rate spring up front.
I also needed some ballast in the rear to give me traction otherwise my rear wheels would throw gravel while trying to drive it up from my shop to the road. It took a lot of weight off the rear wheels for sure.
Sponsored

 
 







Top