Archoil vs. Hot Shot's Secret

[NMH_94]

Given the poor quality of American diesel fuel and all the emissions equipment that comes on modern diesels, a lot of people talk about and are interested in fuel additives. While fuel additives are generally thought of as snake oil and unnecessary for gas engines, I think most people now agree that fuel additives are a good idea for diesel engines (I could be wrong). Anyways, it seems like the most popular fuel additives are Hot Shot's Secret's EDT and its interval Diesel Extreme fuel system cleaner. I used those in my 22 Wrangler EcoDiesel for the first two years of owning it but recently made the switch to Archoil 6500 Diesel Treatment and 6400-D Fuel System Cleaner. Having used the max dose of both companies' products, I've personally experienced that there's no comparison between the two. Archoil is by far the superior fuel additive.

For example, when my Jeep was in rapid warmup mode while running the Hot Shot's EDT, usually between 130 - 175 degrees oil temp, the engine would vibrate, sometimes pretty substantially. That wasn't always the case but is something that started occurring around the 25k-30k on the odometer. From other forums I've seen, this is a symptom that EcoDiesel owners experienced with the previous gen as well. I was worried that this symptom might be an engine related defect rather than a fuel related issue. But I decided to see if running Archoil products would help instead of immediately taking it to the shop, and after running those products, that symptom is completely gone. And the engine just runs smoother and quieter on Archoil overall. I rarely ever hear diesel clatter when using it (that wasn't the case on Hot Shot's products), which I honestly kind of miss because I like the sound. But if it's better for the engine, I'm happy to say goodbye to the clatter.

This is of course just anecdotal, but hopefully it's of some help to people who, like me, want to keep their EcoDiesels for a long time and aren't going to delete the emissions equipment. I really wanted to like Hot Shot's Secret products better because they're available at basically every auto parts store. But given my experience, I can't go back. Only wish I had started using Archoil sooner. If you haven't already, I highly recommend giving Archoil fuel additives a try and using the max dose.

This post is in honor of the late Bill Hewitt, may he rest in peace. IYKYK.

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[Koolcarguy]

Given the poor quality of American diesel fuel and all the emissions equipment that comes on modern diesels, a lot of people talk about and are interested in fuel additives. While fuel additives are generally thought of as snake oil and unnecessary for gas engines, I think most people now agree that fuel additives are a good idea for diesel engines (I could be wrong). Anyways, it seems like the most popular fuel additives are Hot Shot's Secret's EDT and its interval Diesel Extreme fuel system cleaner. I used those in my 22 Wrangler EcoDiesel for the first two years of owning it but recently made the switch to Archoil 6500 Diesel Treatment and 6400-D Fuel System Cleaner. Having used the max dose of both companies' products, I've personally experienced that there's no comparison between the two. Archoil is by far the superior fuel additive.

For example, when my Jeep was in rapid warmup mode while running the Hot Shot's EDT, usually between 130 - 175 degrees oil temp, the engine would vibrate, sometimes pretty substantially. That wasn't always the case but is something that started occurring around the 25k-30k on the odometer. From other forums I've seen, this is a symptom that EcoDiesel owners experienced with the previous gen as well. I was worried that this symptom might be an engine related defect rather than a fuel related issue. But I decided to see if running Archoil products would help instead of immediately taking it to the shop, and after running those products, that symptom is completely gone. And the engine just runs smoother and quieter on Archoil overall. I rarely ever hear diesel clatter when using it (that wasn't the case on Hot Shot's products), which I honestly kind of miss because I like the sound. But if it's better for the engine, I'm happy to say goodbye to the clatter.

This is of course just anecdotal, but hopefully it's of some help to people who, like me, want to keep their EcoDiesels for a long time and aren't going to delete the emissions equipment. I really wanted to like Hot Shot's Secret products better because they're available at basically every auto parts store. But given my experience, I can't go back. Only wish I had started using Archoil sooner. If you haven't already, I highly recommend giving Archoil fuel additives a try and using the max dose.

This post is in honor of the late Bill Hewitt, may he rest in peace. IYKYK.

Interesting we use LDL in our ecos seems to work well. But use Hot in our full size diesels reason being is years back we had a 6.0 ford diesel traded to us with a miss we took to our diesel guy he said before spending any money try this Hot Seceret we did and it fixed the issue, the guy that traded it said he tried everything his mechanic said it need injectors. I will try the archoil next tank (we have 4 ecodiesel Jl and Jt's. Where do you buy it? Thanks Merry Christmas

 

[NMH_94]

Interesting we use LDL in our ecos seems to work well. But use Hot in our full size diesels reason being is years back we had a 6.0 ford diesel traded to us with a miss we took to our diesel guy he said before spending any money try this Hot Seceret we did and it fixed the issue, the guy that traded it said he tried everything his mechanic said it need injectors. I will try the archoil next tank (we have 4 ecodiesel Jl and Jt's. Where do you buy it? Thanks Merry Christmas

Sounds like you used the Stiction Eliminator oil additive for the 6.0? I know those engines have HEUI injector issues that Stiction Eliminator is a good solution to. To answer your question, I don't have any stores nearby, so I order Archoil products online. You can check on their website to see if they have dealers near you. Otherwise, you'll have to order online as well.

Merry Christmas!

 

[BuckeyeButch]

This goes back 10 yrs. I was at a engine machine shop that also was a diesel fuel pump and injector repair shop. They recommended Stanadyne products.
I've been using it in all my diesels. Been very happy with.

 

[NMH_94]

This goes back 10 yrs. I was at a engine machine shop that also was a diesel fuel pump and injector repair shop. They recommended Stanadyne products.
I've been using it in all my diesels. Been very happy with.

I've never used Stanadyne so I don't know how it compares to Archoil. Glad to hear you've had good experiences with it. I just know that Hot Shot's Secret is a popular additive out there and wanted people to know there's a better option available. That's not to say Hot Shot's is a "bad" product. But given how sensitive these engines are with all the modern emissions, I want to use the best additive available to help with longevity

 

[RoamingGladiator]

I use Hotshot EDT every single tank, 2oz performance shot (Probably a little more, I dont measure on the dot) and every single oil change I use an 8oz shot of their extreme cleanup one, I forget the name of it. I change my oil every 7,500km on the dot.

Engine runs like a champ... might see if I can find the Archoil stuff in Canada to give it a try.

 

[NMH_94]

I use Hotshot EDT every single tank, 2oz performance shot (Probably a little more, I dont measure on the dot) and every single oil change I use an 8oz shot of their extreme cleanup one, I forget the name of it. I change my oil every 7,500km on the dot.

Engine runs like a champ... might see if I can find the Archoil stuff in Canada to give it a try.

Do you guys have the same ULSD, low cetane fuel in Canada that we do in the US? All the fuel pumps around me are 40 cetane, and they of course are required to be ULSD

 

[RoamingGladiator]

Do you guys have the same ULSD, low cetane fuel in Canada that we do in the US? All the fuel pumps around me are 40 cetane, and they of course are required to be ULSD

We're required to be 40 centane minimum yeah... but Petro Canada around me advertises their diesel as 47-52.

 

[NMH_94]

We're required to be 40 centane minimum yeah... but Petro Canada around me advertises their diesel as 47-52.

I'm envious! With cetane numbers like that, I'd be able to get away with a lower dose of additives

 

[1945gpw]

Interesting tests done on fuel additives

 

[jeepstrjohn]

Interesting tests done on fuel additives

That was a very interesting watch, thanks for putting that up here on the forum. I am switching from EDT to XPD immediately! After all, why dump something in the fuel if it isnt doing what it is supposed to?

 

[1945gpw]

Yeah I am a little disappointed seeing the results of the EDT since I purchased a gallon of it lol. But glad to see some legit testing being done.
It does appear that XDP standard treatment is about 5 oz for 20 gallons compared to EDT only says 1oz so Im wondering since it’s a much higher concentration if that might have some effect on the testing results.

 

[NMH_94]

Interesting tests done on fuel additives

I saw. Based on their findings, Archoil is the best bang for your buck for lubricity + cetane, while XPD All-In-One is the most effective additive on those fronts. Given the cost effectiveness and the added benefits of turbo/DPF cleaning, I'm going to stick with Archoil. Interesting to see how poorly HSS and Stanadyne did in comparison to the Power Service, Archoil, and XPD.

 

[RKcreative]

I saw. Based on their findings, Archoil is the best bang for your buck for lubricity + cetane, while XPD All-In-One is the most effective additive on those fronts. Given the cost effectiveness and the added benefits of turbo/DPF cleaning, I'm going to stick with Archoil. Interesting to see how poorly HSS and Stanadyne did in comparison to the Power Service, Archoil, and XPD.

Archoil delivered great results indeed! Given that HSS has a standard and a performance dose that is 2x the standard dose, it begs the question how well would a performance dose would compare?

Given the results they posted, assuming that a single dose was used for the test, a performance dose of HSS would deliver a more competitive results, and still be on the lower end of the price/galon analysis. Heck it would probably deliver a leading cetane content.

Given its availability, it’s still a good product, especially when running a performance dose given the results and price per gallon.

 

[Rusty PW]

Looking at theses 2.

Amazon prices.
XPD - $151.52 2 gallon jug, treats 1040 gallon. $54.40 4oz. 12 pack case. Treats 16 gallon.

Archoil - $42.70, 40oz bottle. treats 400 gallons.

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