Stellantis Q4 2024 (and Jeep Gladiator) Sales Numbers / Figures

[Flanders]

FCA US reported Q4 2024 sales of 320,743 vs 343,552 for the prior year quarter. Total 2024 sales were 1,303,570 vs 1,527,090 in 2023.

For Q4 Gladiator sold 9,453 units vs 13,660 in Q4 2023. For all of 2024, sales were 42,123 vs 55,188 in 2023.

The report and pdf attachment are here:

https://media.stellantisnorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=26525&mid=425
https://s3.amazonaws.com/toyota-cms-media/toyota-pdfs/US Dec 2024 chart FINAL.pdf

Toyota sold 192,813 gas and 9,444 hybrid Tacomas in 2024, barely reaching the 200k I predicted 6 months ago.

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[BlackRuby23]

Stellantis is getting pretty near the death throes. In 2015 they sold 2.26 million total vehicles. In 2024 they sold 1.3 million - a 42% decline in unit sales. That is an ugly decline, but even more shocking when you see it on a chart. The line is almost straight down and coincides with their price increases. They literally got rid of their customers. They are in a crisis of epic proportions.

 

[CyberHero]

Sweet my jeep value is taking another big hit lol

 

[CyberHero]

I just did a local search of about 309 miles and saw some very cheap rubicons and Mojave as my sell value for 23 rubicon hydro blue with almost every option on it and 5k miles is 41,000.

Rubicons and Mojave’s are for 41,800 to 43000 but how tf are they selling these trim levels with cloth seating wtf. The only thing some of these have is the fun features no headliner no LED no leather I mean cmon that’s garbage

 

[Blitzinger]

Shitty service, lack of innovation, absurd price hikes, and recalls constantly. Can't imagine why their sales are down

 

[chr15m]

Shitty service, lack of innovation, absurd price hikes, and recalls constantly. Can't imagine why their sales are down

Yeah, thats why I got rid of my Tacoma, oh.. wait..

 

[chr15m]

Stellantis is getting pretty near the death throes. In 2015 they sold 2.26 million total vehicles. In 2024 they sold 1.3 million - a 42% decline in unit sales. That is an ugly decline, but even more shocking when you see it on a chart. The line is almost straight down and coincides with their price increases. They literally got rid of their customers. They are in a crisis of epic proportions.

Stallantis is not exceptional for sure, but they are part of a larger trend. US auto sales very clearly show a relationship with US economic performance. If you search for US auto sales over the last 40 years you will see enormous dips during recession periods, 1982, 1991, 2008, and now post COVID era 2021-on going.

2008 highlighted serious oversight in other companies (GM). Looks like Stallantis is the poster child for this downturn.

We may or may not be driving the present equivalent to the ephemeral H2 Hummer, which ceased production in 2009.

 

[BlackRuby23]

Stallantis is not exceptional for sure, but they are part of a larger trend. US auto sales very clearly show a relationship with US economic performance. If you search for US auto sales over the last 40 years you will see enormous dips during recession periods, 1982, 1991, 2008, and now post COVID era 2021-on going.

2008 highlighted serious oversight in other companies (GM). Looks like Stallantis is the poster child for this downturn.

We may or may not be driving the present equivalent to the ephemeral H2 Hummer, which ceased production in 2009.

Umm, no. With all due respect it sounds like you are just talking with a complete disregard for statistics, because the sales numbers for all manufacturers do not support anything you just said here. Every single manufacturer EXCEPT Stellantis - GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai - even the lowly Nissan which is struggling mightily, have INCREASED their sales numbers since the 2022 pandemic low.

 

[chr15m]

Umm, no. With all due respect it sounds like you are just talking with a complete disregard for statistics, because the sales numbers for all manufacturers do not support anything you just said here. Every single manufacturer EXCEPT Stellantis - GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai - even the lowly Nissan which is struggling mightily, have INCREASED their sales numbers since the 2022 pandemic low.

No respect is due, civility sure, forum rules and all. The platitude is fair though.

Your point is valid but not based off my words or intended point. The other brands show clear recovery signals, but I never said otherwise.

In regard to "complete disregard" any search on the matter will reveal that yes at the 4 aforementioned intervals the entire US auto sale dropped beyond normal variations and the timing would back up the statement that recessions affect sales. The current market situation for stallantis shows that by one metric (Stallantis) the results of post covid recession are indeed on going. The catalyst cannot be entirely covid as I have gathered and agree with from your response, as the Q4 sales increase for Jeep is the highest the brand had YoY per quarter. At the same time Jeep rolled out significant price adjustments. It would be a disregard to causation though to ignore the recession in 2020.

In short I agree with your point on other brand turn around, and note I never mentioned mine as all encompassing nor the only issue to cause these changes in their sales.
The statement on 4 dips due to economic recession is true. This is the only statistical based statement i made, Stellantis makes up a fraction of US sales and therefore cannot explain the more than 10 million vehicle sale delta in 20-21.
The corelation between covid and all market sales dip holds when checked, on going again maintained by Stallantis' current sales which is why I termed it poster child.

 

[BlackRuby23]

No respect is due, civility sure, forum rules and all. The platitude is fair though.

Your point is valid but not based off my words or intended point. The other brands show clear recovery signals, but I never said otherwise.

In regard to "complete disregard" any search on the matter will reveal that yes at the 4 aforementioned intervals the entire US auto sale dropped beyond normal variations and the timing would back up the statement that recessions affect sales. The current market situation for stallantis shows that by one metric (Stallantis) the results of post covid recession are indeed on going. The catalyst cannot be entirely covid as I have gathered and agree with from your response, as the Q4 sales increase for Jeep is the highest the brand had YoY per quarter. At the same time Jeep rolled out significant price adjustments. It would be a disregard to causation though to ignore the recession in 2020.

In short I agree with your point on other brand turn around, and note I never mentioned mine as all encompassing nor the only issue to cause these changes in their sales.
The statement on 4 dips due to economic recession is true. This is the only statistical based statement i made, Stellantis makes up a fraction of US sales and therefore cannot explain the more than 10 million vehicle sale delta in 20-21.
The corelation between covid and all market sales dip holds when checked, on going again maintained by Stallantis' current sales which is why I termed it poster child.

Perhaps there's a slight misunderstanding here. I agree with you that total sales volume of all manufacturers is impacted during recessions, and sales volume overall has been declining as vehicles last longer (and cost more) but I don't think that at all explains what's currently going on with Stellantis.

If you look at every manufacturer's sales numbers individually over the course of the past 5 years, again they all are WAY UP after the 2020/2021 drop, EXCEPT Stellantis, whose volume is crashing into oblivion. This has nothing to do with the economy, and everything to do with a tremendous blunder in their business plan for which their CEO got fired.

 

[chr15m]

Perhaps there's a slight misunderstanding here. I agree with you that total sales volume of all manufacturers is impacted during recessions, and sales volume overall has been declining as vehicles last longer (and cost more) but I don't think that at all explains what's currently going on with Stellantis.

If you look at every manufacturer's sales numbers individually over the course of the past 5 years, again they all are WAY UP after the 2020/2021 drop, EXCEPT Stellantis, whose volume is crashing into oblivion. This has nothing to do with the economy, and everything to do with a tremendous blunder in their business plan for which their CEO got fired.

Yes, the annotation about the Q4 sales being up seems suggestive of pricing schemes working in their favor, which would likely suggest that they're over priced and theor plans werent great.

I believe that there are parallels in our observations, I would argue that Stallantis' faults were overlooked by the consumer until the consumer fell into a more financially conservative mindset after the recession. It may be, most likely, more convoluted though. As a typical Tacoma 4x4 OR right now goes out the the door at a premium over a typical JTR in my area. Yet, sales arent even between the two.

If you'd like me to get more on board with being frustrated with Stallantis it would be easier if we switched topics to their model cancellation/reboots over at Dodge. I see glaring faults there.

 

[BlackRuby23]

Yes, the annotation about the Q4 sales being up seems suggestive of pricing schemes working in their favor, which would likely suggest that they're over priced and theor plans werent great.

I believe that there are parallels in our observations, I would argue that Stallantis' faults were overlooked by the consumer until the consumer fell into a more financially conservative mindset after the recession. It may be, most likely, more convoluted though. As a typical Tacoma 4x4 OR right now goes out the the door at a premium over a typical JTR in my area. Yet, sales arent even between the two.

If you'd like me to get more on board with being frustrated with Stallantis it would be easier if we switched topics to their model cancellation/reboots over at Dodge. I see glaring faults there.

It appears that Toyota took a page right out of Stellantis' playbook and is working feverishly to destroy their customer base as well. They have simply forgotten who and what brought them to their current state, and have begun producing overpriced garbage with MSRPs which are truly eye-watering given the product.

A 2022 Toyota Tacoma TRD OR was ~$35k msrp. It was a solid truck that performed well and was built to last with a reliable and proven v6 engine. So, naturally, Toyota went ahead and got rid of that in favor of a turbo 4 cylinder, added a few body changes, then slapped a $20k price increase on it so that it's now $55k. Good luck with that, because they're now living in the same fantasy world as Stellantis, but have a little more goodwill to burn through so it will take longer to crash into oblivion.

PS - the Gladiator Rubicon is FAR superior to the Tacoma TRD OR in every way.

 

[new to gladiator]

It’s the right time to buy and I feel I got my ‘23 gladiator rubicon in August for a steal at $40K plus t tax with a sticker of $61K.
hell, my other jeep is a 2015 wrangler rubicon which I bought almost ten years ago for $34.8K plus tax sticker $40K.
i see much better value in my gladiator vs. my wrangler

 

[HorsesRear]

Shitty service, lack of innovation, absurd price hikes, and recalls constantly. Can't imagine why their sales are down

You might be better off with a Subaru. Not sure why you own a Jeep.

 

[Blitzinger]

You might be better off with a Subaru. Not sure why you own a Jeep.

Shame on me for expecting a quality product…

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