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Every 16 year old girls dream car is a purpose I guess.
:CWL: well the wife likes it, that's all i care about.

And you drive a mojave. Seriously. That was the adult in you making a "wise smart choice" or the boy inside you saying "OOH lifted jeep me have fun"

Come on, fess up big boy. which was it.
 

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Bro, i get it. But listen, no car guy buys a tesla, and surely not a 101-110k tesla. and you've never seen one but a v6 nissan? LMAO so the v6 can do it, but you don't think even a small turbo on a mustang or whipple on a mustang can't? bruh, you have not "seen" much then. Ford offers a whipple kit with a 3yr warranty, that you can add on at any time and doesn't change your factory warranty. What are you talking about.

And comparing a GT car to a family sedan...just two different worlds, two completely different experiences. A tesla isn't a GT car. There has never been a tall 4 door gt car for a reason, it's too fat, to tall and can't do what GT cars were purpose built to do.

But yea, i could see Teslas making sense for soccer moms picking up their kids and whatnot. Like that's fine. Nobody cares that they are fast. Only the owners. Nobody walks up to them at car meets or the drag strip and checks them out. Literally nobody cares about them. It's a fast microwave and that's how the general car enthusiasts see them as.
Again, on the street, on street tires? I don't care if you put 6 turbos and spray the thing the mustang will not hit 8s on the street period. Not enough traction. It will be quick until it's in the ditch, not like we've ever seen a mustang lose it trying to launch on the street and wreck though am I right?
 

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Mustangs are basically the automotive equivalent of a 16-year-old who just discovered energy drinks. Loud, overconfident, zero self-awareness. Every Cars & Coffee meetup is just a countdown clock to which Mustang is going to pirouette through a crowd like it thinks it’s auditioning for So You Think You Can Drift.

Ford really should include orange cones and a liability waiver in the glovebox. Half the owners treat the throttle like an on/off switch and the car responds by immediately trying to reenact a demolition derby. It’s the only vehicle where a straight road and a small crowd are considered “dangerous environmental hazards.”

In short: big noise, small control, eternal meme.
 

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Again, on the street, on street tires? I don't care if you put 6 turbos and spray the thing the mustang will not hit 8s on the street period. Not enough traction. It will be quick until it's in the ditch, not like we've ever seen a mustang lose it trying to launch on the street and wreck though am I right?
I dunno bro, 6 turbos might do it. I mean if I use the amazon $200 turbo, i've only spent $1200 bux pretty sure i could make a mustang fly with that many.

The reality is, not much will do it because you got lose rocks and gravel and dust on streets, breaking lose is pretty easy. Most of your "track times" is recorded either on a really good road, or prepped track not really "on the street". again comparing a 102k AWD car to a $48k RWD car is kind of silly. Dollar for Dollar, yes it could be done realistically.
 

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:CWL: well the wife likes it, that's all i care about.

And you drive a mojave. Seriously. That was the adult in you making a "wise smart choice" or the boy inside you saying "OOH lifted jeep me have fun"

Come on, fess up big boy. which was it.
Both in my case. The driveway to our AZ property is 20 miles of washboard dirt and sometimes looks like this.
Jeep Gladiator ⚡️ 2026 JEEP RECON Debut. 650 hp / 620 lb-ft, 0-60 in 3.6 sec, 250 miles range 20250604_132601

The Jeeps are the wise and smart choice. They also happen to be a ton of fun and get wheeled regularly. If Jeep built a JLUR style EV with the same specs as the recon but solid axles the wrangler would get traded in tomorrow. Especially in the rocks there is nothing better than instant torque at 0 rpms and that's only possible with electric motors. I'm not an EV fan because they are going to save the planet or reduce emissions or any of that nonsense. The performance, lack of needed maintenance, efficiency, and ability to charge at home while I sleep or even by the solar panels on our off grid property just can't be ignored. Sure I'd much rather the mojave sound like this
But for rock crawling half that horsepower with instant torque wins. Silently wheeling while hearing the birds in the trees and the leaves crunching under the tires is just awesome too. It's like hiking but faster and easier.
 

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Mustangs are basically the automotive equivalent of a 16-year-old who just discovered energy drinks. Loud, overconfident, zero self-awareness. Every Cars & Coffee meetup is just a countdown clock to which Mustang is going to pirouette through a crowd like it thinks it’s auditioning for So You Think You Can Drift.

Ford really should include orange cones and a liability waiver in the glovebox. Half the owners treat the throttle like an on/off switch and the car responds by immediately trying to reenact a demolition derby. It’s the only vehicle where a straight road and a small crowd are considered “dangerous environmental hazards.”

In short: big noise, small control, eternal meme.
You drive a mojave. Was that the old wise man in you saying "Ah yes Mojave very smart wise choice" or the 16 year old in you saying "AHH lifted jeep, me have fun"

Which was it when you bought your Mojave? hmmmmmmmm? 🤔

But i agree with you, because of their popularity and affordability there is a buyer group that makes the real car guys also look bad. But they are not all like that. Problem is, mustang used to make 225hp, and just about anyone could handle it. Today, gen 1-4 coyote's making 412hp+ mine 2024 gen4 makes 480 stock, and most people especially newer drivers don't realize how quick that can get away from you if you don't know what you're doing and there is the problem.

I personally think the UK system that does GPS location and doesn't give you full power unless you are at a track would be smart for guys under 21. That way they could learn it and gain the experience before getting all of it. Like limits it to 300hp until 21 years old.
 
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Both in my case. The driveway to our AZ property is 20 miles of washboard dirt and sometimes looks like this.
20250604_132601.webp

The Jeeps are the wise and smart choice. They also happen to be a ton of fun and get wheeled regularly. If Jeep built a JLUR style EV with the same specs as the recon but solid axles the wrangler would get traded in tomorrow. Especially in the rocks there is nothing better than instant torque at 0 rpms and that's only possible with electric motors. I'm not an EV fan because they are going to save the planet or reduce emissions or any of that nonsense. The performance, lack of needed maintenance, efficiency, and ability to charge at home while I sleep or even by the solar panels on our off grid property just can't be ignored. Sure I'd much rather the mojave sound like this
But for rock crawling half that horsepower with instant torque wins. Silently wheeling while hearing the birds in the trees and the leaves crunching under the tires is just awesome too. It's like hiking but faster and easier.
And you juuuuust had to buy the Mojave and pay the premium for...some washboards? You could of bought a sahara and put some shocks on it and saved 20k.

Your BS excuse of why you bought a Mojave doesn't work on me bruh. I know why you bought it. Even if you won't admit it. :like:
 

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I dunno bro, 6 turbos might do it. I mean if I use the amazon $200 turbo, i've only spent $1200 bux pretty sure i could make a mustang fly with that many.

The reality is, not much will do it because you got lose rocks and gravel and dust on streets, breaking lose is pretty easy. Most of your "track times" is recorded either on a really good road, or prepped track not really "on the street". again comparing a 102k AWD car to a $48k RWD car is kind of silly. Dollar for Dollar, yes it could be done realistically.
Show me one example of a RWD street car outrunning a plaid on the road? I don't think it's remotely realistic because as you said traction is very limiting and you can't just add power to compensate. It's the reason why nobody could beat Ken block in the hoonicorn on an unpreped airstrip in anything RWD. It's not the power is the traction.
 

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Silently wheeling while hearing the birds in the trees and the leaves crunching under the tires is just awesome too. It's like hiking but faster and easier.
THIS. Much better than the strained, angry gerbils in the 3.6, the fan kicking on to speed 3 etc...
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