First time ride in snow/ice

[Rocksalt]

wirh good tires and weight in the bed you can avoid most slipping until you need to engage 4wd

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[ShadowsPapa]

throw some weight in the bed.. pickups while in 2wd have light ass ends

If his truck has limited slip it will be worse on slick roads - especially ice.

 

[Rocksalt]

If his truck has limited slip it will be worse on slick roads - especially ice.

weight in the back will always be better than nothing limited slip or not

 

[ShadowsPapa]

weight in the back will always be better than nothing limited slip or not

That's true and I wasn't arguing that at all, I never said it wouldn't be of some help (and with sand, then you can rip a bag open and help you or someone else get out of a slick spot) - I was only saying if he has limited slip, even with weight it won't be as good on ice as a non-limited slip.
Weight helps, but one will be worse than the other, weight or not.
Take two otherwise equal JTs, exact same tires, etc. and one has limited slip, the other does not. Adding a couple hundred pounds of weight would help either, but the limited slip with that 200 pounds will still be worse than open differential and 200 pounds.
I've driven limited slip vehicles almost my whole life.

 

[Rocksalt]

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That's true and I wasn't arguing that at all, I never said it wouldn't be of some help (and with sand, then you can rip a bag open and help you or someone else get out of a slick spot) - I was only saying if he has limited slip, even with weight it won't be as good on ice as a non-limited slip.
Weight helps, but one will be worse than the other, weight or not.
Take two otherwise equal JTs, exact same tires, etc. and one has limited slip, the other does not. Adding a couple hundred pounds of weight would help either, but the limited slip with that 200 pounds will still be worse than open differential and 200 pounds.
I've driven limited slip vehicles almost my whole life.[/
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a limited slip diff will aid in driving in the snow by equalizing the power delivered to the rear wheels. remember that with an open diff, if oyu lose traction on one wheel, that wheel gets all the power sent to it, where as with the limited slip, both wheels get about the same amount of power

 

[Rocksalt]

Hmmm

 

[Rocksalt]

as I understand it based upon Jeep info and other vehicles with limited slip or posi trac rear ends... these actually are better in snow ice than open diffs and a step back from full locking diffs... hmmm

 

[Rocksalt]

not convinced about your conclusion chief

 

[Rocksalt]

a limited slip diff will aid in driving in the snow by equalizing the power delivered to the rear wheels. remember that with an open diff, if oyu lose traction on one wheel, that wheel gets all the power sent to it, where as with the limited slip, both wheels get about the same amount of power

 

[ShadowsPapa]

a limited slip diff will aid in driving in the snow by equalizing the power delivered to the rear wheels. remember that with an open diff, if oyu lose traction on one wheel, that wheel gets all the power sent to it, where as with the limited slip, both wheels get about the same amount of power

LOL - sorry, had to chuckle a bit as I am a college trained mechanic 45 years shop experience. So I sort of know how they work.

Now, back to the thread- you missed what i said - I never said it wasn't a positive in SNOW - I said it was not so great on ICE and slippery surfaces. And of that I have a lifetime of experience. I know how differentials work, I've built and rebuilt many and have owned and driven cars and trucks with both types my whole life - but if you want a car to have some real serious fun with on ICE - limited slip will do it, the best donuts in a parking lot you can hope for.
They go sideways easier. It's just how reality is - I know some will argue theory, but I'm stating experience as a driver and a mechanic (and an owner of a drag car)
I never said they were not good in snow - check my wording please.
They are fine in snow - I drove my AMX through a blizzard in snow up to the axles - and then found a truck jackknifed in the highway and had to BACK the car a half mile back to the last intersection to get home as it was the only road left open. Backwards - in a blizzard, half mile - and the limited slip got us through the snow.
They are good if there's snow to go through - snow actually helps you get traction.
I bought my JT with limited slip for SNOW.
But for ice I know I have to be more careful with it.

To show I do know differentials, this one is an open - I can't find the pics of the limited slip I recently built for a guy.......... he fried the plates in it. Yeah, that's my messy shop.

 

[TennesseePA]

a limited slip diff will aid in driving in the snow by equalizing the power delivered to the rear wheels. remember that with an open diff, if oyu lose traction on one wheel, that wheel gets all the power sent to it, where as with the limited slip, both wheels get about the same amount of power

in my experience you are absolutely right and. Locked diffs down right sucks for driving on the road in slippery conditions. Even though your Gladiator may have an open diff the brake lock differential or traction control makes it perform almost as well as a limited slip. It just takes the electronics. A half second longer to engage than the clutch pack. I am very envious of you guys who are getting so much snow already. I live for the snow but Nashville only gets a good snow every several years.

 

[Rocksalt]

ok ..based upon your comments on just about every thread.. you appear to be a know it all...

 

[TennesseePA]

ok ..based upon your comments on just about every thread.. you appear to be a know it all...

. Winner winner chicken dinner. I’ve only been wrong once in my life. That was the time I thought I made a mistake. I am 50 years old and I have lived a long life and I make sure to do research and document my statements. So I do not know everything but I do know where to find everything. You should try it research can be a fun pastime. Only thing is you may piss off small minds and they feel the need to snap at you on an open forum.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

ok ..based upon your comments on just about every thread.. you appear to be a know it all...

I know differentials, how they work.
I have owned both types of vehicles - I have 5 now, had 6 up to a month ago. So am speaking from experience. I've also slid a lot with my limited slip vehicles. (and wrecked a few so know how they behave on ice.)

I wasn't arguing that they are not better in snow.
They ARE typically better in snow, and weight helps that even more - I was agreeing with you, and that's why I ordered mine with limited slip - so I am AGREEING they are good in snow - and with weight added.

I merely stated on ice not so good - and you took it to mean not as good in snow.
Check what I said, please.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

. Winner winner chicken dinner. I’ve only been wrong once in my life. That was the time I thought I made a mistake. I am 50 years old and I have lived a long life and I make sure to do research and document my statements. So I do not know everything but I do know where to find everything. You should try it research can be a fun pastime. Only thing is you may piss off small minds and they feel the need to snap at you on an open forum.

50 you are a kid yet.
Started working cars at age 14. My own shop at age 16. I'm 62. College trained, then worked in a shop for years after that. Back to having my own shop again, but part time only since I retired. Restoration work now, auto electric, occasional differential rebuilds, engine building, suspension and steering.

Some don't like free professional advice, I guess. It's not like I'm guessing........
Been wrong more than once, but generally speaking, if I am unsure, I look things up - I still have my college books - to confirm.

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