Okay which one of us is this? Bad driver, language warning

[Pescatoral Pursuit]

Jeepers are the BMW drivers of the truck world.

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[fun2drum]

Jeepers are the BMW drivers of the truck world.

Big difference: BMW drivers never wave to each other. We've got a BMW and I don't think I've ever seen anyone wave to me while in it. Maybe they do with my wife, but that's not because it's a BMW. Sometimes I'll wave to jeeps when I'm in it, but they just look at me like I'm nuts.

Hmmm. Motorcyclists wave at each other too. Maybe that means something. Aww to heck with it. Not worth thinking about anymore. On with Jeepin'.

 

[Bucephalus]

Big difference: BMW drivers never wave to each other. We've got a BMW and I don't think I've ever seen anyone wave to me while in it. Maybe they do with my wife, but that's not because it's a BMW. Sometimes I'll wave to jeeps when I'm in it, but they just look at me like I'm nuts.

Hmmm. Motorcyclists wave at each other too. Maybe that means something. Aww to heck with it. Not worth thinking about anymore. On with Jeepin'.

///M owner's kind of still wave at each other...but each generation is douchier than the last.

 

[redrider]

///M owner's kind of still wave at each other...but each generation is douchier than the last.

Inbreeding does that.

 

[Trickster]

Hood, yes. But it was the back of the vehicle. Different laws for different states but I'm pretty sure if you hit the back or back side of someone's vehicle then you are at fault.

What?
Since when is the location of contact determine who is at fault.
Biker was not “following” the truck, it blatantly cut his driving lane off.
Sure there are ways to blame the biker, but none of this would have occurred if the JT driver didn’t block a “clear and open lane” of the oncoming traffic.
Just a stupid move on the steroidal JT driver.

 

[j.o.y.ride]

If you cann't complete a turn and will be blocking lanes, then don't make the turn. Jeep turned into a line of stopped vehicles and ended up blocking everyone.

 

[Trickster]

As a motorcycle rider, I'm gonna peg the confrontation on the motorcycle guy.
He had plenty of time to stop and he accelerated past cars in the video and then instigated the situation.

Not an ideal U-Turn by the gladiator driver, but from the looks of that road, it looks like it's always a possibility which the motorcycle guy seemed to know about and was just itching to film a situation like this.

That sure is a lot of assumptions.
Yes confrontation was escalated by biker, but come on, he didn’t start the incident. “Always a possibility which the motorcycle guy seemed to know about and was just itching to film”? You know this how?

In my younger days I would have got off my bike when the driver got out. And yes got into it with him.
Now I am older, weaker and wiser.?

 

[Motoarch]

I have been riding 50+ years and did 12 as an MSF Instructor. The M/C rider is, IMO, mostly at fault. The other guy made a not wise move but that is life. I will say that it is riders like that who give the rest of us a bad rep. (P.S.--I ride sportbikes and cafe racers so I know the MO)

This is such a BS response. No the riders reaction wasn't appropriate as it does nothing but potential escalate the situation however he was in no way at fault for creating the situation. The gladiator drive is 100% wrong for pulling into traffic without being able to complete his is turn without cutting of other.

The truck drivers turn wasn't legal and created a potentially dangerous situation where he would have been found at fault had an accident occurred.

 

[futzin']

As my father used to say, "Don't start nothin', there won't BE nothin'.

And I despise when people block traffic, regardless of what vehicle I'm in/on that day.

 

[2TH MVR]

I have been riding 50+ years and did 12 as an MSF Instructor. The M/C rider is, IMO, mostly at fault. The other guy made a not wise move but that is life. I will say that it is riders like that who give the rest of us a bad rep. (P.S.--I ride sportbikes and cafe racers so I know the MO)

Completely agree. Logistically M/C riders are riding in a very dangerous environment mostly due to other in-attentive drivers. But that is unfortunately the way it is with vehicle drivers out there with varying degrees of driver talent and etiquette.

The issue I see is that these M/C riders are exposed to alot of these "moments" and tend to think ALL vehicle drivers are idiots. So they over-react.

 

[Challenger85]

This is such a BS response. No the riders reaction wasn't appropriate as it does nothing but potential escalate the situation however he was in no way at fault for creating the situation. The gladiator drive is 100% wrong for pulling into traffic without being able to complete his is turn without cutting of other.

The truck drivers turn wasn't legal and created a potentially dangerous situation where he would have been found at fault had an accident occurred.

This is actually such a BS response. This entire situation was entirely avoidable, shit like this happens everyday to everyone. I drive a lot for work, if I got out of my van and hit every car that did something stupid or discourteous like this I wouldn’t move 5’. This is a situation where you slow down, honk and tell them they’re an idiot. Instead he played up the severity, hit his truck and then started making a scene. The truck is wrong, the biker is a jackass.

 

[Challenger85]

Completely agree. Logistically M/C riders are riding in a very dangerous environment mostly due to other in-attentive drivers. But that is unfortunately the way it is with vehicle drivers out there with varying degrees of driver talent and etiquette.

The issue I see is that these M/C riders are exposed to alot of these "moments" and tend to think ALL vehicle drivers are idiots. So they over-react.

I don’t ride bikes for this reason but I don’t know what they deal with on a daily basis. I can say, the vast majority of sport bikes i confront are complete and total jackasses. I say this because they’re usually flying past me on the highway in dead stop traffic. It’s actually scary as you’re moving 5mph and here comes an idiot going 50-60mph flying inches from your door. Or they’re going down the median on the highway or they do the same maneuver on the road where they cut between 2 cars down the lane center line to get in front of you. It pisses me off because if you hit me I’m going to be feel bad even though it’s because you’re a total dumbass.

 

[JAVIERGONZO]

That's a horrible time to do a U-turn. You still have to yield to all lanes of traffic to do a U-turn. Not just the ones you're trying to get into. Totally botched by the Gladiator.

 

[Elff]

That sure is a lot of assumptions.
Yes confrontation was escalated by biker, but come on, he didn’t start the incident. “Always a possibility which the motorcycle guy seemed to know about and was just itching to film”? You know this how?

In my younger days I would have got off my bike when the driver got out. And yes got into it with him.
Now I am older, weaker and wiser.?

Not assumptions, Observations.

The biker could have easily slown down and waited for the JT to finish it's turn.

The video starts off with the biker next to a Blue Vehicle and the JT already in the left lane.

At this point, the biker could have let off the gas and started braking, but instead he passes the blue car.
So the Biker was accelerating faster than the other traffic in his direction of travel.
You can actually hear him Rev his engine.

When he comes up on the JT the first thing he does is smack it with his glove. He couldn't have been panic breaking too hard as he smacked the JT with the hand that closes the brake lever.

If that action did not happen, neither would the confrontation.
So I stand by my statement.

 

[Challenger85]

Not assumptions, Observations.

The biker could have easily slown down and waited for the JT to finish it's turn.

The video starts off with the biker next to a Blue Vehicle and the JT already in the left lane.

At this point, the biker could have let off the gas and started braking, but instead he passes the blue car.
So the Biker was accelerating faster than the other traffic in his direction of travel.
You can actually hear him Rev his engine.

When he comes up on the JT the first thing he does is smack it with his glove. He couldn't have been panic breaking too hard as he smacked the JT with the hand that closes the brake lever.

If that action did not happen, neither would the confrontation.
So I stand by my statement.

And your statement is 100% correct. Dude was filming and just wanted to make a scene so he could post it on the internet. I’ve seen videos like this before.

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