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I just ordered an RLD. They have some inbound that they expect to have on hand in 30 days. That's what they told me anyways ... I bought the Mopar trail rail system off eBay for ~$310, IIRC.

I was just trying to prove a point. I think it's funny that people buy the diesel because the pentastar is a dog. Hello, the diesel is slower than the pentastar.

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I'd rather overheat my engine and walk home than have that fugly thing on my truck.

Oil pressure wouldn't change unless it was severely overfilled (or under). The pump flows what it is commanded to, so if it is getting normal (not aerated) oil the pressure won't change. I think you are right there is probably a good margin for error.

It's dirty oil. That's not from spillage. It sounds like they don't want to fix it.

For most people it overcomes their years of training not to be aggressive on the throttle. I don't need that. I do agree the gadget can go from 0 to 100% quicker than I can, but the difference is so minor. It takes maybe 0.1 - 0.2 seconds to hit full throttle. It's an automatic so it just stays...

The pedal is a potentiometer. That's it. Any intelligence is in the ECM and you aren't bypassing that. All you are doing is making the throw shorter. I don't need that. I can see why some people do.

The gadget doesn't change anything in the ECM. It's just changing the voltage the ECM sees. I can do that with my foot. If it could really do something you can't it would be seen on time slips.

I'd have to see some data. My understanding is that essentially they just add a delta to what you are asking the throttle to do. So if you are asking for 50% they bump to say 75%. Once you are asking for 100% it can't add anything. I can reach 100% throttle pretty quick. ;)

So, 0-60, 1/4 mile times etc. are faster using the gadget than without it? (Not real applicable to the JT, I admit.)

800 miles now in my stock JTR, and it seems like 17 is where it has settled in at. This is actually the most fuel efficient vehicle in the fleet. LOL.

You know you would lose, every which way.

Wanna race?

The pentastar does everything the diesel does and more. On a fuel and basic maintenance cost calculation it's going to take a while for the diesel to come out ahead.

Normally I would say it isn't worth it, but if they give you a really good trade in offer maybe. I know back in the day the local Jeep dealer would let you take the new one home so you could swap stuff like bumpers and wheels and what not. Might be worth asking if they will let you do that.

I have a highly trained right foot, don't need a gadget.

Go for plasma now.

If we’re talking towing, just get gears. The age old solution is put the highest numerical gear in.

My track cars see over 270F every session. I'd go broke changing the oil after every time they got above that. Never had a problem changing once per year and checking the level.