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Following to see what people come up with, I was between the diesel and just the pentastar and a lot of this is creating some worry, my order should be showing up in the next couple weeks holefully.... I guess it is possible it's gonna get delayed because of the couple weeks stop recently. But...

It's available now that I just ordered a snazzberry last week XD

Got an email from Daniel saying it's too late to swap :( oh well snazzberry ain't bad and I can stick with my original plan Got an email from

Can anyone confirm if this is real??? I'm about to hit up Daniel and ask if it's too late to switch

Woooo just got my order in! Snazzberry willys eco diesel Premium audio Auxiliary switches Bed liner Premium man bun soft top and the cold weather package! Been a long time coming and a lot of back and forth but finally its ordered

Yeah I want their packages haha

So for me the mpg is just a nice additive I've always wanted a diesel in my jeep that's the sole reason I want to go diesel, plus that low end torque is going to be nice. Long term goals will ne a modest lift 2-3 probably and 37s do a drop hitch I want to be able to do moderate trails I love the...

The willys on the gladiator really only seems to come with cosmetic stuff and remote start, but it comes with the decent rock rails, and I believe more skid plates than the sport s but I'm probably wrong there... but between max tow and willys I'm pretty sure the max tow comes with more...

I keep bouncing back and forth between what I want here... wife and I almost decided just to get a 2 dr wrangler save some money and have fun with it next thing we know we're back in the 45k range looking at rubicon and then we figured let's just go back to gladiator, more family friendly than a...

But is this night eagle thing really a thing thing???? Because that isn't too shabby

So I'm looking at getting mine ordered finally but feel it's a terrible time because in about 3 months when I'd be looking at doing it there will be new options I'm assuming, so the question comes do I get it ordered and then regret not waiting the extra couple months or do I just wait XD...

is there any word on these axles? been planning my build and from what im seeing these 4:30's would be pretty much perfect all rounder for 37's but dont see them on nitro's site

Hmm it looks more yellow in that picture XD

Added to this we wait on the camper get a diesel jt or jl then I get an actual towing truck in a few years to tow a camper hmm

Well now I'm at a decision point. We discussed maybe we wait on the camper. And I just go JL instead of JT hmmmmm but this leads to into another thread I think hahaha. But man that nacho color out on the build site looks so good

Yeah I understand all that and I'm not going to be going crazy with anything at all I've been looking at the lighterweight bumpers and as far as road armor goes I'm more concerned with specific skid plates just going to have to be mindful

Y Yeah exactly, if the diesel came with just a bit more payload it'd be perfectly fine

I had thought about this and was pretty convinced that oh it'll be fine just close to or just a bit overloaded but I think the big selling point for me is that I would really like it to be multi purpose, from towing, daily driver, and some wheeling. Granted I'm not going to do anything crazy...

I th I think when it comes to out performing I agree with your statement like its just a more powerful engine so yes it'll tow more smoothly and have less issues tugging that weight I think the real debate comes down to is it worth overloading your payload capacity because you can still get a...

I'm in this exact predicament now actually and I'm leaning and being swayed more towards the max tow, the biggest issue is that payload capacity I was trying to stay within hitch weights of <500 but that's still almost half your payload on the diesel without including people and any types of...